Tancredo wins surprise immigration vote

Rocky Mountain News ^ | June 15, 2007 | Chris Barge

[goldstategop]

Go Tom, Go! CHEERS!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[abigailsmybaby]

I’m shocked my rep voted yes.

[goldstategop]

The fact is the Senate bill is DOA in the House. If they can't get Democrats to defeat Tancredo's amendment, they're not going to get the bill through the House. There's still hope in America. NEVER GIVE UP!!!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

Blue Dog Democrats voting the way their constituents want.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[IM2MAD]

One thing no one is mentioning is the monumental election fraud that will take place if the bill ever passes. If these invaders have no compunction about breaking laws to get here and get jobs, benefits, etc., why should they not break another law and vote. Perhaps this is why the Dems are lickin’ their chops.

[goldstategop]

The Blue Dogs voted YES, the RINOs voted NO. It tells you Republicans (at least some of them) don't represent the mood of the Americam people.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[CottonBall]

And keeping TT in the race won’t let the GOP sweep this under the rug.

The great thing is that even all the other candidates are wanting to discuss illegal immigration too. (All except McCain, who is getting slammed for his bill.) Did you see in the last debate how most of them wanted to keep talking about it, but the moderators had to stop them? I think they realize THE issue is illegal immigration and they won't win the nomination unless they at least pretend to be conservative on it.

[IslandJeff]

Spot on. As a Rudy supporter out of the gate, I told his campaign to get the hell out front on this. He’s already solid on the War (the other rail), but Sanctuary City baggage keeps him from winning by The Ten Run Rule.

Saddened me, but the dense field makes it far more likely that someone will emerge that everyone can like. Whether top-flights like Rudy, Romney, Thompson, or even someone who could catch fire (and MONEY) like a Tom Tancredo.

[CottonBall]

But is Rudy just saying what will get him elected or does he really mean it? I thought he was weak on illegal immigration and let them pour into NYC.

[IslandJeff]

He had to be exec in a hegemonic Dem area, but, despite his accomplishments as “America’s Mayor”, he still seems to suffer from New Yorker Disorder: that the only thing beyond the Hudson is New Jersey.

He’ll uncomfortably overcome this, and, I believe, has internal convictions that he just can’t express. He’s a bit like GW when his campaign first started - lots of money but also a helluva lot to sell.

I think, regardless of the nominee, the GOP will win in 2008. If nothing else, this immig mess gives the GOP something to differentiate from the sitting President.

[vaudine]

This is about withholdng the money—the purvue of the House. Could the Pres. hold it up? I don’t think so.

vaudine

[George W. Bush]

Dang, I’ve now donated to three Presidential candidates. Tom earned his donation today.

That is an outstanding idea. That way, they'll have enough money to run border ads and maybe hold on in the polls. I've also wondered if the only way we keep the border/illegals issue alive is to all combine behind just one candidate. I'm afraid the three strongest border/illegals candidates (Hunter, Paul, Tancredo) will split the borders vote and all be too weak in the polls to stay in the fall debates. They'll have a rule that you have to have 5% in the polls or they'll weed you out.

[George W. Bush]

The Blue Dogs are now likely to betray the Dims about as often as the RINOs betray us.

And if Pelosi cracks the whip very hard, she'll end up Minority Leader in 2009 instead of Speaker.

[IslandJeff]

When do “matching funds” kick in?

The biggest folks ignore the statute, but the second-tier needs to be part of the debate, particularly in this ridiculously-long cycle.

[George W. Bush]

Good question. I think after the third quarter but they’ve been changing the laws. I’m not sure how effective that is because of the large rise in people who won’t do the checkoff out of disgust with the government.

[IslandJeff]

In any case, the candidates should win, not the parties.

I hope the RNC, for one, is bouncing checks. At least the Dems’ internal dissent is between Stalinist and socialist - far more predictable and consistent.

[TomasUSMC]

Tancredo needs to ask Cheney about where the VP stands on the amnesty bill.

Tancredo has a chance to make a splash now and move up in the polls.

[popdonnelly]

There ain’t a more divisive issue right now than immigration reform. The Senate should cool it.

[George W. Bush]

Via FEC: In order to qualify for matching funds, a candidate in the primary elections must first raise over $5,000 in each of 20 states (i.e., over $100,000), consisting of small contributions ($250 or less) from individuals.

I would guess the three borders/illegals prez candidates already have enough to qualify. Nothing is said about when it starts so I guess it starts after you file for the office. My guess is that they must certify their receipts to get their handouts government checkoff funds.

The candidates can submit monthly or quarterly reports. The Commission reviews and certifies and disburses the money. The initial submission is the threshold submission and simply certifies the national support. Thereafter, they are regular submissions and will be certified and paid out to the campaigns.

So they could be receiving matching funds already. I'm sure Paul has or will shortly.

[IslandJeff]

I was treasurer for an unsuccessful House campaign back in ‘04 - our FEC filings were quarterly, but an ongoing concern (IOW, an incumbent) has to file monthly.

It’s a joke, made even worse by McCain-Feingold.

As you said, big-wallet campaigns just blow off the requirements. I’d junk the mechanism entirely, were I King for a day.