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Giant Sucking Sound: New Free Republic Third Party?
June 16, 2007 | Vanity

Posted on 06/16/2007 4:26:37 PM PDT by Frobenius

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To: Frobenius

Abandoning the Party when they don’t fully act how I would like gives the Democrats and the Left more power and encouragement. I will, therefore, work harder to reform the Party to the conservative greatness that is its’ standard. I don’t back down from a fight for my values, just like I don’t abandon my friends.


161 posted on 06/18/2007 2:39:00 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: tflabo

So take it back. Not payback. Playing revenge only hurts America. Not everyone in the Party falls into your catagories. Are you up for the hard work, or would you rather retreat to “feel good” land?


162 posted on 06/18/2007 2:41:34 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Frobenius

Your stupidity is astounding!


163 posted on 06/18/2007 2:45:03 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Frobenius

The giant sucking sound is created by those engaging in “pie in the sky” foolishness.


164 posted on 06/18/2007 3:09:55 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: JoeA

“We don’t need a new party. I’m afraid. We need a new country. This one is broken beyond repair. I suggest we gather a bunch of freepers and form a new government, based on the founder’s principals.”

Need a new country? Broken beyond repair? Gather a bunch of freepers and form a new government? If the country is broken beyond repair then all the Freepers together couldn’t put it back together again. I used to see the glass half empty when I was Democrat. But now that I took off the rose colored glasses and am a proud Republican, I see things much clearer. The glass is half full. This country is still the greatest on Earth. Anyone who think otherwise should look somewhere else. And with all due respect to FR, I think alot of FReepers are Armchair Patriots. I have been begging FReepers for over two years to get out there on the street corner against the moonbats, and rarely has anyone shown up. So if you think that people are going to work to fix the problems....


165 posted on 06/18/2007 4:53:42 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Frobenius

The Reagan 11th commandment:
"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican"

166 posted on 06/18/2007 4:59:03 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: Frobenius
I needed a snicker today.

That was funny...............seriously.

*snork*

167 posted on 06/18/2007 5:04:24 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: SoCalPol; SierraWasp
There in, lies the problem. Ross Perot had more balls and brains that all of the chicken$hit cartuh regime. He got his people back from Iran - the only person to take great risk.


The islamofascists are smart enough to let the Americans settle way back down since 9/11, but they'll be back...Anyone can enter America through Mexico - Jorge refuses to acknowledge reality.

The republican party except for a great few, is coming unspun and hooking their wagon to a rino instead of something solid ( look how they refuse to recognize Duncan Hunter, and they all have julie-gag me-fever). The dhimmicrats make any headway in 08 and the taliban/al quaida already have Hillary and Jamie "build the wall of self destruction" Gorelicker. They'll need a new fall guy, so janet reno won't be returning. Talk is cheap, might want to start hoarding a precious metal, now, like lead. If the slickmeister associates gain, it will be too late to try and stock up by then.

Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson are the only two that are definitely over 50% conservative, and sharp enough to do the job, without trying to have some stupid legacy building fantasy.They're both connected to reality. They've lived somewhere besides the DC inside circle.
168 posted on 06/18/2007 6:30:13 PM PDT by Issaquahking ( Heaven's gain...Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub - Freeper extraordinaire)
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To: oneamericanvoice

No question that this is the greatest country on the face of the Earth. But we have long ceased being a representative republic. We are ruled by an oligarchy who only make pretensions of listening to the public. Like a broken clock, they get it right every once and a while, and we foolishly go back to the polls and re-elect them in gratitude. On immigration —or the alien invasion as I call it— national defense, spending, government growth, trade, and any number of issues, the administration and Republican party have walked away from its core principles.
The only reason they are acceptable is that the democrat-socialist-communist party is abominable.

When border patrol agents are arrested and thrown in jail for doing their job, and courts overturn centuries of established procedures in dealing with enemies, the system is well beyond repair.

We need a reformation from the top to bottom, as Jefferson suggested would be necessary periodically.

Remember that it was a small group who led the revolution against England. A small group could do it again.


169 posted on 06/20/2007 3:11:06 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / I bleed Pinstripes)
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To: JoeA

I do not believe that we are ruled by an oligarchy. Since you do, please, name them. I agree with many of your assertions especially illegal immigration. However, certain issues like spending must be examined as to why it has taken place, or we fall into acceptance of the common thought, which is not always correct.

We are in perfect position for doing exactly what you said was needed...a return to the basics. But in order to do so you must believe that the Party is not irrevocably broken or that we are ruled by oligarchy. I will work with those that wish to get back to basics rather than flee in a feel good moment to some third party. It is perplexing that anyone who go Independent given that all parties are run by people, how would one not end up in the same position as that which they left.


170 posted on 06/20/2007 7:00:57 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

The oligarchy is the Washington-set think that sucks in the elected. Go to D.C. as a conservative, and in a few years you’re a just little to the right of everyone else, but you’re OK on the cocktail/party/Meet the Press circuit. example: A reasonably conservative George W. gets elected and soon looks like Nelson Rockefeller.

One of the essential ingredients at the founding was a government made up of citizens, not career politicians. I know I’m preaching to the choir, but how far have we moved from those ideas? And what are the chances, short of —dare I say— revolution, of getting back to it? Even the sainted Ronald Reagan was unable to do more than stem the tide for a while. And almost all the progress he made withered away under GHW, let alone BJ and W.

Is there a solution? I’m willing to be convinced, but right now I’m so depressed it’s going to take something akin to Paul’s conversion.


171 posted on 06/21/2007 6:32:50 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / I bleed Pinstripes)
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