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Teachers Union Turmoil
Townhall.com ^ | June 21, 2007 | George Will

Posted on 06/21/2007 5:32:05 AM PDT by gpapa

WASHINGTON -- Democracy is rule by persuasion, but the unpersuasive often try to coerce the unpersuaded. Recent days have provided two illustrations of this tendency, both of them pertaining to labor unions, whose decades of declining membership testify to their waning power to persuade workers that unions add more value to workers' lives than they subtract.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dues; education; elections; nea; publicschools; supremecourt; unions; wea
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1 posted on 06/21/2007 5:32:06 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

Fear of retaliation keeps many workers from going union.


2 posted on 06/21/2007 5:34:32 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: gas0linealley

Don’t you meant “against the union”?


3 posted on 06/21/2007 5:44:22 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: gas0linealley

Don’t you meant “against the union”?


4 posted on 06/21/2007 5:45:05 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: gpapa

Once again Scalia shows why in my opnion he should be Chief Justice !!!


5 posted on 06/21/2007 5:46:27 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: gas0linealley

My husband belongs to a union. Membership is mandatory. The union is highly political - on the other side of the aisle, of course. They harass us with constant phone calls at election time. He doesn’t dare open his mouth for fear of retaliation.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 5:56:15 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Scarchin

No


7 posted on 06/21/2007 5:56:35 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: sageb1

Why doesn’t he quit?


8 posted on 06/21/2007 5:57:55 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: gas0linealley

Why doesn’t he quit? Are you serious? He’s almost 60 years old.


9 posted on 06/21/2007 6:06:05 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: gas0linealley
People understand that a vote for a union is a vote for losing your job when the plant closes.

If unions can’t get voted in with a secret ballot its because the workers don’t want them.

10 posted on 06/21/2007 6:17:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: sageb1

This situation you described, his fear of retaliation if he speaks out against the union’s policies, it’s a recent development, then?


11 posted on 06/21/2007 6:23:31 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: Beagle8U

“{People understand that a vote for a union is a vote for losing your job when the plant closes.”

Ahhh, then you want us to believe that only union plants are closing?


12 posted on 06/21/2007 6:25:56 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: gas0linealley

Recent in that he has only worked where he does since 2002. Beyond this would be divulging too much personal info.


13 posted on 06/21/2007 6:28:56 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: gas0linealley

“Fear of retaliation keeps many workers from going union.”

Fear of business owners making rational economic decisions when additional unexpected costs are heaped onto the cost of doing business and doing things like closing plants is not a misplaced or inappropriate consideration when deciding whether to bring a union in.

Unions are to businesses what ARMs are to homeowners.....unpredictable costs.


14 posted on 06/21/2007 6:29:16 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: gas0linealley

“Ahhh, then you want us to believe that only union plants are closing?”

Absolutely not. Unprofitable plants are the ones that close. A Union plant is usually less (much less) profitable for labor-intensive business.

You want us to believe that Unions increase productivity and profits for a plant owner?


15 posted on 06/21/2007 6:33:17 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: gas0linealley
You don’t see many of the Toyota or Honda plants closing.

The non union factories that close are for the most part because they were suppliers for union plants.

16 posted on 06/21/2007 6:42:45 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: sageb1

Your husband is probably enjoying better wages and benefits, because he is working union, than he would otherwise enjoy.

The situation in America is this: we have a two party system and an almost infinite variety of personal preferences, and interests, which must be shoe-horned into that two party system. The Democratic Party has made an effort to be friendly to organized labor, the Republican Party has, for the most part, spurned organized labor. The result needs no explanation.


17 posted on 06/21/2007 6:46:38 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: RFEngineer

“Unions are to businesses what ARMs are to homeowners.....unpredictable costs.”

If a non-union worker is a screw-up, he can move from employer to employer and continue his pattern.

A union worker understands that there are many employers, but only one union, and in today’s market the union wants to ensure the success of all it’s companies, thus a screw-up is soon out the door.


18 posted on 06/21/2007 6:54:15 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: RFEngineer

“You want us to believe that Unions increase productivity and profits for a plant owner?”

Union workers get better wages and benefits, thus they are happier than non-union. Happy workers are more productive.


19 posted on 06/21/2007 6:57:56 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: gas0linealley
Union workers get better wages and benefits, thus they are happier than non-union

LOL.

20 posted on 06/21/2007 7:02:15 AM PDT by what's up
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