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Head-to-toe Muslim veils test tolerance of stridently secular Britain
IHT ^

Posted on 06/21/2007 5:56:04 PM PDT by traumer

LONDON: Increasingly, Muslim women in Britain take their children to school and run errands covered head to toe in flowing black gowns that allow only a slit for their eyes.

Like little else, their appearance has unnerved Britons, testing the limits of tolerance in this stridently secular nation. Many veiled women say they are targets of abuse. At the same time, efforts are growing to place legal curbs on the full Muslim veil, known as the niqab.

The past year has seen numerous examples: A lawyer dressed in a niqab was told by an immigration judge that she could not represent a client because, he said, he could not hear her. A teacher wearing a niqab was told by a provincial school to go home. A student who was barred from wearing a niqab took her case to the courts, and lost. In fact, the British education authorities are proposing a ban on the niqab in schools altogether.

David Sexton, a columnist for The Evening Standard, wrote recently that Britain has been "too deferential" toward the veil. "I find such garb, in the context of a London street, first ridiculous and then directly offensive," he said.

Although the number of women wearing the niqab has increased in the past several years, only a tiny percentage of women among Britain's two million Muslims cover themselves completely. It is impossible to say how many exactly.

Some who wear the niqab, particularly younger women who have taken it up recently, concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity, which they have embraced since Sept. 11, 2001, as a form of rebellion against the policies of the Blair government in Iraq and at home.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abuse; blair; britain; burka; burkha; burqa; culturalsuicide; dhimmitude; enemywithin; england; hejab; hijab; immigration; infiltration; islam; koran; muslims; muslimwomen; nationalsuicide; niqab; quran; rop; sharia; subjugation; uk; ukmuslims; veil
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1 posted on 06/21/2007 5:56:05 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
Imagine what lovely thoughts these freaks are putting into their children's heads.
2 posted on 06/21/2007 5:58:19 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: traumer
It is impossible to say how many exactly.

Yes, it is difficult to count exactly because you never know if the person underneath is a cross dresser.

3 posted on 06/21/2007 6:01:45 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: traumer
concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity Wouldn’t a wristband work just a well, or a funky ball cap? Especially in hot weather.
4 posted on 06/21/2007 6:02:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: kinoxi

Masks of any kind should be outlawed in Western society.


5 posted on 06/21/2007 6:02:37 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: traumer

“...particularly younger women who have taken it up recently, concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity, which they have embraced since Sept. 11, 2001, as a form of rebellion against the policies of the Blair government in Iraq and at home.”

I’ve got a better expression...leave Britain.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 6:05:04 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t think I would last very long (without police intervention) walking the streets of Baltimore wearing a hockey mask ...


7 posted on 06/21/2007 6:05:08 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: doc1019
Properly parsed: concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity

Wouldn't a wristband work just a well, or a funky ball cap? Especially in hot weather.
8 posted on 06/21/2007 6:06:01 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: traumer
"For me it is not just a piece of clothing, it's an act of faith, it's solidarity," said a 24-year-old program scheduler at a broadcasting company in London, who would allow only her last name, Al Shaikh, to be printed, saying she wanted to protect her privacy. "9/11 was a wake-up call for young Muslims," she said. [emphasis mine]

cultural jihad bump

9 posted on 06/21/2007 6:06:59 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

She (and her compatriots) could always go back to their land of origin where their garb would be better appreciated!


10 posted on 06/21/2007 6:14:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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I am offended by this tent that they call the niqab. Call it what you want, dudes, but it is still a freaking tent! We live in a free society, folks. How can we tolerate one segment of our society forcing its female members to melt and roast and sweat in an ugly tent while the men sport about in regular clothing???? It is discrimation - and isn’t that illegal? It is torture. There is something inheritly wrong with this. We have seccurity cameras everywhere that cannot see through the tents - so that means that criminals can just wear the tent and we will never know their faces or even sex. Women fought too long for equality in the Western World to allow or even tolerate the wearing of the tent. Hey man - Does that mean I have the right to wear a Bill Clinton mask when I go the the bank? If Mrs Mohamed can wear a tent - then I can wear a Bill Clinton Mask.. We really do have to stop this garbage.


11 posted on 06/21/2007 6:27:48 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Dajjal

We are going to have to exterminate the jihadists no matter how “innocent” they are. There comes a time when you really are guilty by association.


12 posted on 06/21/2007 6:28:24 PM PDT by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: traumer

The only purpose served by a mask is to hide your identity for criminal purposes. The exceptions are the Long Ranger and Zorro.


13 posted on 06/21/2007 6:32:51 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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"9/11 was a wake-up call for young Muslims," she said.

Too bad it wasn't a wake-up call for DemocRATs.

14 posted on 06/21/2007 6:33:13 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: traumer

Some who wear the niqab, particularly younger women who have taken it up recently, concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity, which they have embraced since Sept. 11, 2001, as a form of rebellion against the policies of the Blair government in Iraq and at home.

Its an understandable response to the western attacks of Iraq on Sept 11th 2001


15 posted on 06/21/2007 6:37:31 PM PDT by itches (hey George now would be a good time to win the war)
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To: doc1019
I Corinthians 11:5but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled disgraces her head-- it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.

My wife wears a head-scarf every Sunday (guess why). After mass, we often go out shopping or to eat. Frequently, moron liberals come up to us, shoot me a nasty look, and then tell her, "You're free! You don't have to wear that scarf anymore!" Free? Oh, just not free to decide what to wear on her head.

The real prize goes to the red-blooded Patriots who come up to us and say things like:

Yeah. Land of origin? U.S of A. We're already "back" there.

Finally, after years of this getting worse post-9/11, she bought a bright blue scarf that says "I love Jesus" in big, gold letters. Did it help?

No.

16 posted on 06/21/2007 6:37:33 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Dajjal
“9/11 was a wake-up call for young Muslims,”

Interesting, I always thought it was a wake up call for the West. Who does she think did the attacking?
A perfect example of brain washing.
17 posted on 06/21/2007 6:38:57 PM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: traumer

One day they should go out and gather up these women and take them directly to the airport and place them on a plane back to the first Islamic craphole that came up on the schedule. Next day they do the same thing. It wont be long before Islamic women start appearing in typical British dress.


18 posted on 06/21/2007 6:44:50 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Masks of any kind should be outlawed in Western society.

Helen Thomas, Rosie O'Donnell, Janet Reno, Madeline Allbright.....

19 posted on 06/21/2007 6:49:05 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Mr. Know It All

Actually most Catholics wear their scarves only in church, so you are speaking of an unusual case. I think you are being silly trying to compare the Moslem isolation tent to a simple head covering some wear in church. Get real. I frankly doubt if anyone spoke to your wife that way. I think this story was made up. We have many ladies who wear scarves to cover their heads while receiving chemotherapy. Folks accept that and wish them well. Some women wear fancy hats to church, to weddings, military events, or horse races. This is for fun or style - not to regress back to the middle ages.


20 posted on 06/21/2007 6:53:43 PM PDT by Martins kid
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