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To: rattrap

I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. There was a book that came out, long time ago, that layed out all the various nations located within America, using the standard of nation as applies to the rest of the world. As it turned out, I think it ended up being that there were 10 nations located within America.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 7:03:59 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AzaleaCity5691

If this thing goes through, we can look for the final BALKANIZATION of America with all the internal unrest between the various SEPARATE and UNASSIMILATED factions that entails.

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is PRECISELY what these New World Order cretins in Washington want. The ensuing civil unrest and turmoil would most likely lead to closing the net around the rest of us, declaring a “National Emergency,” suspending posse comitatus, collecting the firearms and...

If you’re having trouble filling in the rest, study the course of virtually EVERY tyranny throughout history. Also look up “Hegelian Dialectic.”

And if some of you folks are not big readers, perhaps these short videos will help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CyxOlL9zKg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


7 posted on 06/27/2007 7:08:35 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Are you referring to Nine Nations of North America?
10 posted on 06/27/2007 7:11:06 AM PDT by posterchild (How did trees absorb CO2 before carbon funds started collecting money to manage the process?)
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To: AzaleaCity5691; rattrap
I think this article makes a point as it concerns cultural and linguistic diversity. I have worked overseas for 9 years (Germany and Saudi Arabia) and was exposed to many nationalities and cultures. In my opinion, the most diverse culture from Western Civilization is the Islamic culture, which is deeply tied to Islam. Muslims don’t assimilate very well into Western society. While Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs etc. usually assimilate much better.

In our history, many nationalities have emigrated to the USA, and since our revolution, most did not speak English. Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, even Latinos from south of the border learned English, and adopted our “American” culture, which is an off shoot of the British/Celtic cultures and Western civilization.

The big problem today is that multiculturalism has downgraded the value of our American (Western) culture and its strengths. The left actually argues that all cultures are equal and perhaps that American culture is imperialistic and evil. All cultures are not evil, and America need to foster its culture, not proliferate every third world culture.

Race is not necessarily a factor in culture, but every time I hear a rap music tune, I am reminded that there is an African-American subculture, and part of it is distasteful to me. However, in general Black Americans have adopted American culture.

The concern that I have for illegal immigration is that with the massive influx of Hispanics our country will not be able to assimilate these people, thereby creating situations like what Victor Davis Hansen called “Mexifornia” in his book. We don’t need the Canadian model where whole regions of the culture are adversarial to each other because of language and culture.

We may have 10 nations, but I have lived in six states in different parts of the country and find Americans from NY are more like Americans from Texas, Georgia, Virginia or Arizona than for example an Englishman is like a Scot, or a Castilian is like a Catalonian. If illegal immigration doesn’t change, we may be looking at Southern California as another Quebec (Hispanic style).

18 posted on 06/27/2007 7:23:43 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: AzaleaCity5691
That book deservedly sank into oblivion, since the observation is false.

There might have been Chinatowns, Italian neighborhoods and toxic neighborhoods in most major cities, but the critical part is that the overwhelming majority of all those ethnic or national groups were scattered throughout the population. Still are.

That is why the concept of "Americans" is possible. Otherwise we would all today be described by our tribal past. Silly season.
Without some strong easily perceived physical differences, most Americans are indistinguishable from one another; language, customs and attitude is what binds them together as a whole, greater than the sum of its parts.

It takes a conscious decision NOT to assimilate; Conversely, it takes not only a conscious decision but effort to assimilate. If one is treated as a helpless savage unable to care for oneself and treated as a pet, the dark side of human nature takes over.

If I can survive with no effort, and I am told that I am just as good and valuable as people who actually are, why should I seek change in myself?

35 posted on 06/27/2007 7:38:23 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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