Posted on 06/28/2007 11:32:01 AM PDT by The Blitherer
I get it!!!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!
he's not a senator... right?
I hope that the majority now realizes that bashing congress at time works. I hope now that every American bashes for a long and high fence along our southern border and the troops to guard it.
>> 4) THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION Ive admired this president for a long time, but Ive reached a point where Ive had it up to here (my hand is at my forehead) with this administrations chronic obtuseness and arrogance.
I’ve recently heard a theory posited that has made me re-think this ... though, admittedly, it could be just a liberal-kook conspiracy theory. My question is ... is it possible that George W. Bush threw himself on a grenade for the ultimate benefit of the Party in 2008 and beyond?
There are some that have suggested that this was a move by the Bush Administration to (1) give the Republicans an issue with which to distance themselves from a relatively unpopular President, and (2) spark up the conservative base for the upcoming 2008 campaign.
And - if this theory is true - it just may have worked ... the conservative base is riled up (and, evidently, splitting only from the RINOs, not from the Party in general), and many Congressional Republicans and Republican Presidential candidates have an issue that they can use to distance themselves from the White House.
Could this have been the most brilliant Karl Rove ruse ever thought up? I doubt it ... but its possible, and it would certainly explain why Pres. Bush was so deaf to the concerns of the base.
Hemorrhage
You are an eternal optimist! I wish I could believe it, but Bush has been pretty consistent with his belief on immigration. He's just never tried to push it this hard before.
“It’s the Information Age that’s made it happen. The politicians in Washington are running scared.”
Bingo! See my tag line.
I can’t believe that people still give Karl Rove and Bush that much credit.
They both massively underestimated on this bill. They both massively underestimated the last election.
I think their winning the elections for George Bush had to do more with who was running against him rather than their strategery or genius.
They have become legends in their own minds.
Agreed. I don’t really subscribe to the theory ... I just thought it was an interesting idea.
I DO think that the Republican Party, and conservatism generally, will ultimately benefit from this whole fiasco. The base is unquestionably enthusiastic right now, and they have just demonstrated the power that they wield. Truly conservative Congressmen, Senators and Presidential candidates (i.e. the ones who were against the bill) will enjoy a HUGE boost, and some definite separation from the struggling White House. Some of the less-conservative Senators have pretty much been decimated politically (Graham, etc.)
And, George W. Bush has SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroyed the Presidential Campaign of John McCain (again).
I don’t, however, think it was planned that way.
Hemorrhage
Will the Republican base forgive the administration for its actions surrounding this bill? My guess is no. Were moving on to finding another leader for the party, and in 7 months or so well have one. In the meantime, thanks to this idiotic gambit, theres a power vacuum right now in the White House.
I won't forgive the administration and I'm pretty well fed up with Bush but I'll never turn my back on the WOT or the war in Iraq.
This statement is 100% wrong. In pushing for unfettered access for foreign invaders pouring across our southern border, Bush basically exposed the so-called "war on terror" as a complete fraud. He has shredded every bit of his administration's credibility on it, which effectively guarantees that the U.S. military presence in Iraq will be drastically reduced after September.
>> Bush basically exposed the so-called “war on terror” as a complete fraud.
I didn’t realize John Edwards posted here. Or maybe Congressman Kucinich? Noam Chomsky?
Certainly no CONSERVATIVE could utter such nonsense.
H
this is a good article. The quoted language is especially perceptive and sad.
If this makes any sense to you, then you must be smoking some peyote today.
If GWB had pushed SS reform as hard as he pushed this amnesty abomination, and was able to get it through Congress when he had a chance (ie. before 11/2006), he'd be a candidate for Mt. Rushmore. Instead, he's become the lamest of lame ducks.
I still think he has a chance to build a somewhat positive legacy:
1.Drop the 'new tone' and really hit back hard at the 'Rats the next time they try to f**k with Iraq war appropriations - call them what they are - traitors - if they continue to try to surrender to Al Qaeda with any timetable or 'redeployment' scheme
2. Pardon Scooter Libby and the railroaded border agents
3. If a SCOTUS vacancy occurs while he's still in office, bypass the 'Rat-controlled Senate with a recess appointment of a serious originalist justice
4. Prosecute the leakers of classified national security documents *and* the MSM traitors that expose them
5. Promise a veto of any resurrected 'Fairness Doctrine' and vigorously defend talk radio
Doubt if it will happen, but you never know ... he did cave on Harriet Miers and Dubai Ports.
Good blogging by Dean B.
Makes me proud to be a Chowdahead.
“The next step is to immediately push the president to take up his word and enforce security at the border,” said Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican who help lead the fight against the bill.
>> If this makes any sense to you, then you must be smoking some peyote today.
You’ll be glad to know that nothing you’ve said has made ANY sense ... so I’m “peyote” free.
>> A government that sends troops halfway around the world to install (Iraq) and/or prop up (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia) Islamic governments — while at the same time pushing to allow millions of foreigners to pour across its borders — can no longer even justify its own existence.
Sure, there’s a contradiction in the immigration policy and the War on Terror ... though I’m not sure where you’re making the leap that the contradiction means the War is a fraud.
George Bush was misguidedly disconnecting the War and the Immigration Bill ... he was clearly wrong in doing so. However, I don’t think he sees immigration as War-on-Terror-related. He wasn’t intentionally undermining his own foreign policy ... he was, to his mind, granting amnesty to hard-working immigrants in the futile hope that they would become hard-working Republican immigrants.
Again - he was CLEARLY wrong on this issue. But - the War, and the Administration’s position ON the War, is as just and right as it ever was.
H
The illegal foreigners should be encouraged to continue to speak the language of their homeland.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.