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Germany silences pro-lifers, homeschoolers, creationists
WND ^ | June 28, 2007 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 06/29/2007 11:48:20 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

FAITH UNDER FIRE

Germany silences pro-lifers, homeschoolers, creationists

Crime is 'incitement of the people,' court rules in ordering prison term

Posted: June 28, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

A 55-year-old Lutheran pastor has been found guilty of "volksverhetzung" or "incitement of the people" by a German court and will spend a year in jail after an Erlangen court claimed he made a statement denying the Holocaust suffered by the Jews at the hands of Nazi-Germany during World War II.

Johannes Lerle compared Germany's abortion rate of 150,000 annually to the murder of Jews in Auschwitz during the Holocaust.

According to Life Site, though the pastor has been jailed for anti-abortion activities in the past, his current one-year jail term stemmed specifically from charges of Holocaust denial and not from his statements comparing abortion to the Nazi Holocaust, as it claims news sources erroneously reported.

However, Lerle has faced prison time in the past for voicing his opposition to abortion.

"Previously, he had been jailed for eight months for calling abortionists 'professional killers.' An allegation which the court ruled to be slanderous because the court says the unborn are not human," an anonymous pro-life activist in Germany told Salem Voice Ministries.

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"Berlin is Germany's abortion capital. For every 1,000 babies born in Berlin, 344 were killed in their mother's womb," Pro-life With Christ reports. "In the city with 3.4 million inhabitants 10,024 babies were aborted [in 2006]."

However, such figures fail to account for the substantial number of unrecorded abortions – which are estimated to be equal to the total number of reported abortions.

Other high-profile religious leaders have also condemned Germany's growing acceptance of abortion. According to a BBC report, the Roman Catholic Church publicly condemned government plans to allow the sale of abortion pill RU-486 in 1998. Archbishop of Cologne Joachim Meissner made a comparison between taking the abortion pill and the use of gas in the Holocaust.

Gunter Annen is another pro-life activist who has faced a similar fate at the hands of a German court. In 2005, he asked to end "unjust abortions in medical practice" and was sentenced to 50 days in jail because the courts claimed the term "unjust" can be interpreted to mean "illegal." People who have abortions are not prosecuted if patients receive counseling and terminate the pregnancy within three months of conception.

Germany uses threats of "volksverhetzung," a tactic once used by Nazis against their enemies, to intimidate many of its citizens – including homeschoolers.

As WND previously reported, a German court ordered teenager Melissa Busekros to be taken from her home by a police squad and detained in a psychiatric hospital for being homeschooled. She was later returned to her family when an appeals court ruled she was no longer in danger.

In a separate WND report, a federal prosecutor in the German state of Hesse is seeking three-month prison terms for a mother and father who homeschool their six children, even though the family already has paid fines for violating the nation's Hitler-era homeschooling ban and made plans to move.

Officials with the Home School Legal Defense Association, the pre-eminent homeschool advocacy organization in the world, are actively involved in a number of cases. Estimates are that there are about 400 homeschool families in Germany – virtually all of them either forced into hiding or in court.

Many fear the ever-present threat of "volksverhetzung" in contemporary Europe, as it is being used to silence and jail conservative and orthodox citizens for voicing their own deeply felt beliefs.

The charge may soon be used to combat creationism as well. On June 26, the Council of Europe, or CoE, Europe's main human-rights body, is scheduled to vote on a proposal advocating the fight against creationism in its 47 member states.

According to CoE's Parliamentary Assembly report, creationists are dangerous "religious fundamentalists" who propagate "forms of religious extremism."

"Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American phenomenon," the report says. "Today creationist theories are tending to find their way into Europe … [T]his is liable to encourage the development of all manner of fundamentalism and extremism, synonymous with attacks of utmost virulence on human rights."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; bigotsecularists; creationists; europeanchristians; freespeech; gemany; holocaustdenier; homeschoolers; lerle
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1 posted on 06/29/2007 11:48:23 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Typical atheistic Eurotrash.


2 posted on 06/29/2007 11:51:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American phenomenon," the report says. "Today creationist theories are tending to find their way into Europe … [T]his is liable to encourage the development of all manner of fundamentalism and extremism, synonymous with attacks of utmost virulence on human rights."

Hmmm...how odd. Didn't Hitler use naturalism in his argument to perpetrate the Holocaust?

Just sayin'...

3 posted on 06/29/2007 11:54:39 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Germany is taking after U.S. universities. I guess “higher education” works...


4 posted on 06/29/2007 11:55:55 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: The Blitherer
==Hmmm...how odd. Didn’t Hitler use naturalism in his argument to perpetrate the Holocaust?

Yes: http://web.csustan.edu/History/Faculty/Weikart/FromDarwintoHitler.htm

The Nazis also used environmentalist arguments. Namely, the Jews were non-native species and thus needed to be exterminated.

5 posted on 06/29/2007 12:00:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

From a law enforcement point of view this is great. Afterall, it’s much safer to arrest idealogues that violent and dangerous criminals.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 12:01:19 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

LOL


7 posted on 06/29/2007 12:06:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
are dangerous "religious fundamentalists" who propagate "forms of religious extremism."

How does the ol' Fatherland deal with Muslims and their kind?

8 posted on 06/29/2007 12:07:39 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yeah, but those are all “bad guys” so it’s OK.

Now wait ‘til Hollywood give ‘em the what-for for being means to those L. Ron Hubbard cultists!


9 posted on 06/29/2007 12:16:09 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The day is coming.

We’re going to have to decide which side we will choose.


10 posted on 06/29/2007 12:28:28 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m sure Hitler would have completely agreed with the court.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 12:32:25 PM PDT by MSF BU
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To: GodGunsGuts

I thought the EU was providing new rules preventing discrimination against religions?


12 posted on 06/29/2007 12:32:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GodGunsGuts

>> A 55-year-old Lutheran pastor has been found guilty of “volksverhetzung” ... will spend a year in jail ... denying the Holocaust ...

The guy’s an ass, but the Germans still appear to suffer from that intolerance problem.


13 posted on 06/29/2007 12:36:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

lol crazy Germans

http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/toothpaste.htm


14 posted on 06/29/2007 1:03:34 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Gene Eric
...The guy’s an ass, but the Germans still appear to suffer from that intolerance problem....

The guy (I presume you mean the pastor - Johannes Lerle) is an a$$ for comparing the killings of the unborn with the killings of Jews? He didn't deny the holocausts he made a comparison that the PC gestapo didn't appreciate. Hardly makes him an a$$.

Perhaps you didn't understand the story? Or maybe you like the killing of babies!

15 posted on 06/29/2007 1:38:47 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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Make no mistake, Pastor Lerle is a holocaust revisionist. That’s what has got so many people confused. Check my posting history to see all the back and forth re: Pastor Lerle.


16 posted on 06/29/2007 1:43:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
...Make no mistake, Pastor Lerle is a holocaust revisionist...

That assertion is backed up by the story nor a quick google on the man. I cannot in conscience receive the charge against a pastor or elder in the church with out two or three witnesses as per 1Ti 5:19. If you have factual data to support this claim then you should present the facts, but just making the assertion is gossip of the worst kind.

17 posted on 06/29/2007 2:12:59 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: DaveyB
Should read ... That assertion is NOT backed up by the story

Sorry!

18 posted on 06/29/2007 2:14:28 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: DaveyB
Like I said, check my posting history. You will run into all kinds of links, including links to Pastor Lerle’s own website, that demonstrate that he is a holocaust revisionist (not a denialist mind you, he’s a revisionist)...and he definitely has some anti-semitic ideas re: Jewish blood libel and the crucifixion, etc. My basic point is that, while he may be all of these things, it is clear that the German socialists are using these things as a pretext to go after Pastor Lerle for his pro-life political activities. Having said that, Pastor Lerle is at best a mixed bag and does not deserve to be held up as some sort of Christian martyr to be rallied around. In my opinion all sides wind up looking bad in this case...both Pastor Lerle and the German government.
19 posted on 06/29/2007 2:35:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DaveyB

PS When I say check my posting history, I mean read all the articles and replies that my posting history will take you to. Plenty of people posted links to Lerle’s website and elsewhere that make it clear that all these things are true.


20 posted on 06/29/2007 2:48:31 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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