NHS Opened the Door

The NY Sun ^ | 7/5/2007 | DANIEL JOHNSON

[Nachum]

The fact that the Al Qaeda plot to detonate car bombs in London and Glasgow was carried out by doctors working for the National Health Service has shocked the British public far more than the fact that they were Muslims.

[kinoxi]

For half a century the British have convinced themselves that the NHS is the envy of the world. It is — for the third world. And it is the third world's doctors and nurses who keep alive this socialist cult of security from cradle to grave.

Good quote.

[lexington minuteman 1775]

The spirit of Neville Chamberlin is alive and well in Britain!
And denial is NOT a river in Egypt. Ignorance of these people and their plans will not save you from their jihad.

[sono]

Makes you want to rethink that H1B program, doesn’t it?

[gidget7]

There is a very good lesson to be learned here. The Brits, AND Americans would do well to learn it. If you hear of a warning, such as “Those who heal you will kill you”, take it seriously!

On the other side of things, making statements like “Do not call terrorists Muslims” is probably NOT a real good idea!

[donna]

The article says four out of 10 NHS doctors are trained abroad!

[Mears]

Michael Moore should have known about this and he could have included the info in “Sicko”.

[TXnMA]

"Punchline" quotation from the article:

"The NHS is the nearest thing to a religion that the British now have. For half a century the British have convinced themselves that the NHS is the envy of the world. It is — for the third world. And it is the third world's doctors and nurses who keep alive this socialist cult of security from cradle to grave."

[M. Dodge Thomas]

"The article says four out of 10 NHS doctors are trained abroad!"

"The US heath care system is most heavily dependent on foreign-trained doctors for care in poor and rural areas. The states with the highest rate of such doctors practicing in rural, under served areas were Florida and West Virginia (45 percent), North Dakota (40 percent), and Illinois (39 percent). States with more than 20 percent international medical graduates in rural areas were New York, Kansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina and Texas."

http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/busse11.htm

[donna]

My doctor is from India!

[oyez]

I wonder how many native British doctors have left England for freer and greener pastures.

NHS is about as impressive as the NEA and the American public school system, institutionalized incompetence.

[oyez]

My daughter had some allergies we could not pin point. It took an Iranian doctor to find them. I can be sure this guy considered himself more American than Iranian.

[Gritty]

[scrabblehack]

Are they American-born, and then go to med school abroad (I assume for lower academic standards)? Or are they foreigners in the first place?

There is a difference...

[VOA]

I can be sure this guy considered himself more American than Iranian.

I had plenty of ex-pat Iranians for neighbors in West Los Angeles,
aka "Tehrangeles".

Good folks...about their rowdiest display was closing down a
local street for a celebration when Iran beat USA in soccer.
(but it was a good-natured show of pride for the team from the old country)

[oyez]

I tend to call them Persians.

[M. Dodge Thomas]

Are they American-born, and then go to med school abroad (I assume for lower academic standards)? Or are they foreigners in the first place?

Generally speaking, the higher the educational level required, the greater the percentage of foreign-born workers in a given health-care occupation.

For example 1 in 7 US health care workers are foreign born, for doctors (physicians and surgeons) the ratio rises to 1 in 4. (1)

While I don't have a cite handy, it's even higher higher for some specialties.

(1) http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/print.cfm?ID=583#5

[M. Dodge Thomas]

My doctor is from India!

Same for my in-laws. He was excellent with older patients, and IMO kept then both going years longer than might otherwise have been the case.

Interestingly, as a devout Hindu, he politely declined to continue as her physician once she had elected Hospice (she had CHF, and eventually tired of the repeated hospitalization) as he felt this would have been a abdication of his responsibility to keep her going as long as possible and "Let God decided her time".