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The Wizard of the Saddle
NRO ^ | July 20, 2007 | W. Thomas Smith Jr.

Posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:09 PM PDT by SuzyQ2

Forrest's soldiers loved him. His fellow generals admired him. His enemies were terrified at the mere mention of his name. Gen. Robert E. Lee said of his finest subordinate commanders, the most remarkable was one he "had never met" — Forrest. And U.S. and foreign military officers alike have studied Forrest’s campaigns over the decades since the end of the war. It has even been speculated that some aspects of the German Blitzkrieg were patterned after some of Forrest's operations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; US: New York
KEYWORDS: army; bedfordforrest; bigot; dixie; forrest; fortpillowmassacre; kkk; military; militaryhistory; nathanbedfordforrest; nathanforrest; nbforrest; redneck; slaver; soldier; war
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1 posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:10 PM PDT by SuzyQ2
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To: SuzyQ2
Image and video hosting by TinyPic If I remember rite he killed 13 men in "Hand to Hand" combat Had 29 horses shot out from under him,,,wounded 8? times, He led from the front...
2 posted on 07/20/2007 6:35:32 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: SuzyQ2

1. Slave trader
2. Democrat. (Convention delegate in 1876)
3. Killer. Committed civil war atrocities.
4. KKK Member. Was responsible for spreading the orginization thoughout ths south.

Tactical genius, moral monster


3 posted on 07/20/2007 6:40:44 PM PDT by Realist05
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To: Realist05

And the man who should have been second in command of Confederate forces after Lee.


4 posted on 07/20/2007 6:45:38 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Realist05

We could use a few more of him. Moral purity is not possible. Are you willing to lose in order to find a general that passes muster with you, or the ACLU?


5 posted on 07/20/2007 6:46:26 PM PDT by Defend the Second (Let Me Get This Straight: Illegal Invasion is OK, but Legal Expulsion is Not?)
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6 posted on 07/20/2007 6:48:33 PM PDT by Bender2 (A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
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To: Realist05; SuzyQ2
Tactical genius, moral monster

I can forgive him for 1, 3 & 4...

Seriously, though:

To put some perspective on General Nathan Bedford Forrest

My thought on the matter is that those who wish to put down those like Forrest and Robert E. Lee these many years after the fact would have never dared to speak such things to those men's faces...

7 posted on 07/20/2007 6:48:41 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Bender2

Right. Give me Lee, Grant, Forrest, and Sherman. Stack bodies. Kill those whose only goal is to destroy Western Civilization. They are not interested in negotiation. Kill them to protect our country and our children. Kill them.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 6:56:28 PM PDT by Defend the Second (Let Me Get This Straight: Illegal Invasion is OK, but Legal Expulsion is Not?)
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To: Defend the Second
You got it... Ace!
9 posted on 07/20/2007 7:06:01 PM PDT by Bender2 (A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
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To: Defend the Second

I beseech thee all to reconsider.
Mr. Forrest was an enemy to the Republic, to the principles of equality and freedom as expressed in the constitution and affirmed by Lincoln in the Cooper Union speech and all Republican acts through the war, do not think that confederate ideology is the future of conservative thought in America in the 21st century.


10 posted on 07/20/2007 7:09:27 PM PDT by Realist05
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To: Realist05
Democrat?

I think a young Robert Byrd rode with him.

Long Live Sherman!

11 posted on 07/20/2007 7:19:35 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Realist05; Defend the Second
Mr. Forrest was an enemy to the Republic, to the principles of equality and freedom as expressed in the constitution and affirmed by Lincoln in the Cooper Union speech and all Republican acts through the war, do not think that confederate ideology is the future of conservative thought in America in the 21st century.

I'm pretty sure that the direct descendants of the Virginians who pretty much started this country didn't die at The Angle because they were confused about what the American Republic was...

12 posted on 07/20/2007 7:20:07 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Realist05

At the very least Forrest defended the states rights arguments of the Confederacy. Whether you agree with that or not in the context of our Civil War, whose side do you believe Forrest would be on today? Can we use fighting men like him in the defense of our civilization? In fighting these bastards, do you believe we are talking about political differences or life and death? Decide, because your life depends on it.


13 posted on 07/20/2007 7:29:02 PM PDT by Defend the Second (Let Me Get This Straight: Illegal Invasion is OK, but Legal Expulsion is Not?)
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To: SuzyQ2; wardaddy

“The firstest, with the mostest.”

Funny part is he rarely had the “mostest”, but he made up for it with audacity just like R.E. Lee.


14 posted on 07/20/2007 7:31:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Johnny Sutton, saving drug smugglers from the Border Patrol)
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To: Realist05
Committed civil war atrocities.....moral monster

This isn't about Wm T Sherman.

15 posted on 07/20/2007 7:33:10 PM PDT by Pelham (Johnny Sutton, saving drug smugglers from the Border Patrol)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

In fact, the number of enemy he killed in close combat exceeded the number horses he had shot out from underneath him by one (most likely 31 enemy killed and 30 horses shot) leading him in later life to claim that he was “one up”.


16 posted on 07/20/2007 7:37:50 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Realist05

Yeah, yeah, and George Washington as an enemy to the Crown and a slave owner as well.

The Crown was granting emancipation to slaves who would fight for the King. You neo-yankee moralizers grow very quiet when challenged to apply your “tests” to him. Better get out your Redcoat and pledge allegiance to King George III.


17 posted on 07/20/2007 7:38:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Johnny Sutton, saving drug smugglers from the Border Patrol)
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To: Pelham; SuzyQ2; wardaddy
“The firstest, with the mostest.”

This alleged quote is nothing more than revisionist propaganda. Forrest did not speak this way. What he actually said was "get there first with the most men".

18 posted on 07/20/2007 7:38:53 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat

Yes, but he should have.

It’s just like ‘Play it again, Sam’ is never spoken in Casablanca. But it should have been..


19 posted on 07/20/2007 7:45:02 PM PDT by Pelham (Johnny Sutton, saving drug smugglers from the Border Patrol)
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To: SuzyQ2
Best cavalry comander: General Phillip Sheridan, Chief of Cavalry, Army of the Potomac, fought more classic mounted cavalry battles, won them all. He destroyed JEB Stuart's command, killing Stuart. He also captured Missionary Ridge and large amounts of prisoners and supplies. He gutted the Shenandoah Valley, routed Early, forced Lee out of Petersburg, and cut off Lee's escape from Appomattox, forcing Lee to surrender.

Forrest was very capable but the Army of Virginia and the Shenandoah valley were the heart of the Confederacy and that's where the Civil War was fought and lost by them.

My other candidate would be Gregg who ran JEB Stuart out of Gettysburg.

20 posted on 07/20/2007 7:49:11 PM PDT by gandalftb (Blessed be the Lord that teaches my hands for the war, and my fingers to fight. (Sniper Jackson))
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