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Soldiers help remove man-made reef
Army News Service ^ | July 20, 2007 | Lindy Dinklage

Posted on 07/24/2007 8:08:52 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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To: Mr. Silverback
From the article: "The whole mission was about recycle, recycle, recycle," Sherrad said.

Let's see... it was "recycle" when the tires were stacked in large storage lots to be ground into material used for paving, or energy, or whatever.

Then it was "recycle, recycle" when the tires were dropped into the ocean to make a reef to improve the habitat for sea life.

Now it is "recycle, recycle, recycle" when the tires are laboriously retrieved from the ocean floor and shipped to incinerators who will use the tires to create energy.

Two-hundred years from now, it will be "recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle, recycle", when the tires are dug up from a landfill in Nevada and transported to factories to grind them up and make low-cost housing for the homeless.

Somebody needs to keep an eye on these tires, because I don't think they are ever going away.

21 posted on 07/24/2007 11:45:45 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Again, I question the need for an army’s “skills in environmental protection.” In fact, an army’s duties, quite often run counter to “environmental protection.” I fear the day when some future tank commander in a hostile conflict directs his vehicles to avoid protected vernal pools that may lie in the most direct path to an enemy.


Never heard of the Army Corps Of Engineers, huh? If you’re building on a site and have to impact federal wetlands, who do you think handles the review process?


22 posted on 07/24/2007 11:49:46 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: Beckwith
I agree........had to have been liberal environmentalists who thought up this ridiculous plan to begin with.
23 posted on 07/24/2007 11:54:29 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"It was one of those ideas that seemed good at the time,"

This statement will be applied to genetic engineering and global warming next.

24 posted on 07/24/2007 11:55:59 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: pfflier
LOL........yep, the environmentalists evolved into global warming nutcases.........
25 posted on 07/24/2007 11:56:23 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: D Rider
It’s all anti-corporate claptrap.
26 posted on 07/24/2007 12:23:02 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Clam Digger

Yep. Most of my 20+ years were as an Army Sailor.


27 posted on 07/24/2007 2:07:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: ElkGroveDan

For Army sailors and divers, this is great training. Every soldier is not combat arms - some transport the bullet launchers, beans and bullets - and clear underwater areas to construct needed ports. This fits in with harbor clearance


28 posted on 07/24/2007 2:10:51 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

I never said they shouldn’t be doing it.

See post #13
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870775/posts?page=13#13


29 posted on 07/24/2007 2:27:23 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

My dive tables aren’t handy, but from what I remember of the tables, your “hours” estimate is pretty far off.


30 posted on 07/24/2007 9:33:11 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Upon arriving in Florida, the Soldiers were given several plans for completing the mission.

I, for one, hope the solution involves explosives...lots of explosives.

31 posted on 07/24/2007 9:37:29 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I, for one, hope the solution involves explosives...lots of explosives.

Especially if they film it. :-)

32 posted on 07/24/2007 9:44:08 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Again, I question the need for an army's "skills in environmental protection."

It's PR - "environmental protection" makes points with the leftists - and they now control the military purse strings. The soldiers involved couldn't care less what the press release calls it. They are practicing the skills they need to do their job, and (experience talking now) it's a lot better than hauling empty boxes and containers from point A to point B, and for the divers a lot better than retrieving flags or markers. They are actually accomplishing something.

33 posted on 07/25/2007 2:31:12 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The entire thing could hae been nipped in the bud at the moment of inception if a ten year old had shown them 60’s era National Geographic photos of underwater WWII wrecks in the Pacific. Coral encrusted much of the ships, except for the tires of trucks, motorcycles, etc that had spilled from the holds. In those photos the contrast between rubber and metal was startling. Wire wheels with coral and absolutely clean tires.

Any serious sport diver could have told them the same.

“Dude...bad idea. You’ve like never, ever really been diving have you? Watching Mike Nelson on Sea Hunt and Cousteau specials is a non-qualifier.”


34 posted on 07/25/2007 2:57:34 AM PDT by Covenantor (America's Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Oh, and the headline, "Soldiers help remove man-made reef" should read,

Soldiers Once Again Fix Sorry-Assed, Simple minded Kumbaya Reef Building Attempts"

35 posted on 07/25/2007 3:06:53 AM PDT by Covenantor (America's Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Here's a link to a photo of sunken Japanese ship at Truk Lagoon. Notice the tire in the foreground.

http://www.shutter.fi/truk/smoking.htm

36 posted on 07/25/2007 3:16:26 AM PDT by Covenantor (America's Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Curious how long it will take to remove 700,000 tires.

700,000 bottles of beer on the wall...

37 posted on 07/25/2007 3:27:56 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Mr. Silverback

It’s not just the part under water. They have to get the ship out to the area, prep for the dive, then they dive and tie up the tires, then they have to haul them up. If they can lift them on the boat, then they have to prep for the next dive. At the end of the day, they have to take them back to shore, and unload them.

I don’t know how deep the tires are, but if they are deep enough there’s a long time getting down and back up as well.


38 posted on 07/25/2007 6:25:03 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Covenantor
Soldiers Once Again Fix Sorry-Assed, Simple minded Kumbaya Reef Building Attempts"

Dude, you know the mods will be on my case if I change article titles. :-)

39 posted on 07/25/2007 10:39:42 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Mr. Silverback I meant that the source should have had a better headline.

I do believe that my suggestion would have been a hit with the target audience.
;>)


40 posted on 07/25/2007 12:53:43 PM PDT by Covenantor (America's Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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