Posted on 07/26/2007 9:59:22 PM PDT by sageb1
"The Pope's private secretary has given warning of the Islamisation of Europe and stressed the need for the continent's Christian roots not to be ignored, in comments released yesterday.
"Attempts to Islamise the West cannot be denied," Monsignor Georg Gaenswein was quoted as saying in an advance copy of the weekly Sueddeutsche Magazin to be published today."
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Evening sageb1, good to see ya!
The framework (Political Correctness, Multi-Cultural progression, etc.) is in place to take the United States. Will it happen here?”
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............just a matter of time.
I see fundamental differences in Christianity and Islam in that the Islamist believe they speak "for" God and the Christians would never presume to.
Christians leave a wide berth of tolerance, but have little tolerance for those who suppose they know Gods mind.
True now, but not always true in the past.
Islam needs some introspection.
They cannot pass an introspection.
Every major religion in the world has gone through an introspection with the exception of Islam.
They will fall apart under the scrutiny
The trend and associated risk in Europe was clear 20 years ago.
It’s too late for them now.
We have time in the U.S., however, it is necessary to quit kissing Muslim butts, especially if they’re not willing to actively condem terrorist acts.
I was in usenet yesterday for the first time in a long while on a PC gaming board and there were a bunch of spam posts trying to convert people to Islam.
Yes. The problem is, if you introspect in Islam, you are murdered and your family is homeless.
Lovely arent they?
Here people just damn me to hell, There they try to send you there.
Sadly, no one!
Muslims have more rights than Christians in this Country, and everyone is so afraid of CAIR, the ENEMEDIA (both television and print) won't report the truth when it comes to islam. When the press censored itself (refusing to print the cartoons of Mohammed), it became very obvious how much power CAIR has!
The one advantage we still have is the second Amendment... but the commie leftists are trying their best to take those rights away too!
American is very close behind and FYI, the target date set by Islamic fundamentalists here in South and SE Asia is that by the year 2020, the Islamization of the United States will be completed.
I first became aware of this about 7 years ago when I was told of the initiative being led by Saudi Arabia by a group here in SE Asia who were responsible for implementing the ideology in this region - I think I first posted about this back in 2002 and at that time I received a fair amount of ridicule here at FR to say the least.
Maybe you remember that Jan - I posted a very long post detailing the strategy of how the implementation would advance - schools being required to use the Quran - special rights for Muslims - halal foods - the official recognition of prayer times and fasting month ~ in fact most of what I mentioned back then has already started to come to fruition.
I wish there was a way that I could have better access to all of my posts here at FR - I think I have now coming close to 10,000 - It would really like to see my posts here from back in 2001 and 2002.
From my perspective over here, observing what is happening back in the States - I've actually been quite surprised at the progress I've seen with their plans. Things are moving along quite smoothly with little or no real opposition.
From what I see, Americans for the most part see Islam as merely a religion - they fail to see the political ideology that the religion encompasses.
Western-style liberal Democracy combined with the radical ideology of 'diversity and multiculturalism' has proven to be extremely fertile soil for political Islam to take root. Political correctness and tolerance are like Miracle-Gro fertilizer.
So there you have it, and it looks impossible to stop it at this point without radical changes that America is unable to take which would be the official recognition of Islam at a political ideology - which we know won't happen.
The end result is going to be violence and lots of it - and when it gets to that point the government will be compelled to change. Watch it. I think it will take place well before 2020 myself - perhaps as early as 2012-2015.
The next two or three years will be the deciding factor in the United States - but at this point it looks like America is destined to fall under the crescent and scimitar.
Are you saying that the US has a higher percentage of Muslim population than Europe?
This map is several years old, so I'm sure there are hundreds more...way too many terrorists training camps right here!
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Yes, complacency and political correctness will be our downfall!
I have in the past found copies of the plan by searching for:
muslim manifesto
And then like the communist manifesto 1963, it almost vanished from the internet.
I once read a CIA report on the plan, it also said 2020, it was on the last President of Mexico’s personal site, but I could never find it again.
His site had several of our CIA reports on it. This was 2 to 3 years ago.
I see the same as you, the world is falling and going down fast.
It is amazing to me the laws that get changed here for them.
There is an agenda of sorts at this link.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33898
I was trying to find your post, but didn't have any luck. I will repost another similar quote from Joseph Farah.
The entire article should be required reading for all!
Here's a few highlights.
1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.
4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.
7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.
8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam.
9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth... [...]
* Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants.
11. Provide very sizable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.
12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.
17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.
18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.
19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.
"...No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).
Good I am glad it was the one you wanted to find.
In the past, I had found the muslims version of it, and it is about the same, in fact, almost a copy of the communist manifesto.
I just sent [as a ping] you a post, on new college rules for the muslims.
Did you listen to KOA radio tonight? 850koa.com
At 10:30 pm your time, 2 Policemen were shot, another got his nose broken........a normal traffic stop, a warrant found for the driver and the passenger pulled a gun.
The Officers were shot in the foot and arm and are expected to recover.
This in downtown Denver.
The passenger was shot in the head, no reports on his chance of survival........to me he is too stupid to live, there was no reason to hold him, but when they told him he would have to find another way home, he flipped.
But I am sure he will eventually catch heaven.
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