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Paul Right, Romney Wrong on Iraq and 9/11
John Birch Society ^ | 8-8-07 | Gary Benoit

Posted on 08/08/2007 1:30:04 PM PDT by CJ Wolf

Ron Paul was right during the Des Moines Republican debate when he said that our going into Iraq had nothing to do with al-Qaeda. And Mitt Romney was wrong when he interrupted him.

At the Republican debate in Des Moines, Iowa, on August 5, Congressman Ron Paul made clear that our going to war against Iraq had nothing to do with going after al-Qaeda, the terrorist group that attacked us on 9/11.

"The neoconservatives promoted this war many, many years before it was started," Paul said during the debate. "It had nothing to do with al-Qaeda. There was no al-Qaeda in Iraq." As Ron Paul elaborated on how wrong the neocons have been, Governor Romney, apparently attempting to telegraph his disgust with the congressman’s remarks, snidely said to the audience, "Has he forgotten about 9/11?" as he gestured with his hands. A couple seconds later, Romney again rudely interrupted — "Have you forgotten about..." — as Paul continued using the time allotted to him.

Later in the debate, Paul revisited the subject of al-Qaeda. "I supported going after the al-Qaeda into Afghanistan," he said, "but, lo and behold, the neocons took over. They forgot about Osama bin Laden. And what they did, they went into nation- building, not only in Afghanistan, they went unjustifiably over into Iraq. And that’s why we’re in this mess today."

Put simply, Ron Paul does not believe we went into Iraq because of 9/11. But Mitt Romney obviously believes we did. So who’s right?

It is true that President Bush and other neocons in his administration have repeatedly juxtaposed references to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq to those of 9/11 in their public statements. In so doing, they have created the impression among many Americans — apparently including Romney — that Saddam Hussein had attacked us on 9/11. But the administration did not explicitly say this and did not even present evidence supporting this allegation. As President Bush himself said on September 17, 2003: "We’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th [attacks]."

The administration did portray an al-Qaeda/Iraq connection as a concrete fact. Yet in a January 8, 2004 press conference, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell acknowledged: "There is not — you know, I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection, but I think the possibility of such connections did exist and it was prudent to consider them at the time that we did." In truth, the evidence simply was not there.

By interrupting Congressman Paul with his "Has he forgotten about 9/11?" protestation, Governor Romney not only made himself appear less than presidential, he also confirmed that, where Iraq is concerned, he does not know what he’s talking about.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911truthers; asseenonstormfront; icecreammandrake; iraq; jbs; johnbirchsociety; lunaticfringe; mrspaulsshrimp; patbuchananlite; paul; paulbearers; paulestinians; porkzilla; preciousbodilyfluids; romney; sapandimpurify; tinfoilhats
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Let's try to keep this to the subject of the thread all.
1 posted on 08/08/2007 1:30:08 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: George W. Bush

fyi


2 posted on 08/08/2007 1:32:14 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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>Let's try to keep this to the subject of the thread all.

Good luck ;-)

3 posted on 08/08/2007 1:32:24 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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I think before responding or making a fight of this, they should consider the source of the article: John Birch Society.
4 posted on 08/08/2007 1:32:48 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CJ Wolf

Is the endorsement of the John Birch Society supposed to make me feel BETTER about Ron Paul?

H


5 posted on 08/08/2007 1:33:12 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor
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6 posted on 08/08/2007 1:33:42 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Ron Paul just proves we have extremists on the right...he is the Pat Buchanan of this campaign. :)


7 posted on 08/08/2007 1:34:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Hemorrhage

“Is the endorsement of the John Birch Society supposed to make me feel BETTER about Ron Paul?”

C’mon. Drink the Pauline Kool-aid.


8 posted on 08/08/2007 1:34:19 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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....and the neocons are promoting fluoridation of our water supply, to rob us all of our precious bodily fluids....
9 posted on 08/08/2007 1:35:37 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Dr.Deth
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10 posted on 08/08/2007 1:35:38 PM PDT by Allegra (9 - ssssingle digit!)
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To: CJ Wolf

“Al Qaeda in Iraq” was not a stated reason for the invasion. However, Al Qaeda was in Iraq. Ron Paul is wrong, and sounding more like a Code Pinker every day.


11 posted on 08/08/2007 1:35:57 PM PDT by planter
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Ron Paul adheres to the teaching of the John Birch Society should be no surprise to anyone.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 1:37:00 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Allegra

What are you doing awake?


14 posted on 08/08/2007 1:37:36 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: CJ Wolf
Now to get back on subject, what this article completely ignores is the almost fifty references in the 9/11 report to connections between Al Quaeda and Iraq and more importantly, the dozens of other jihadist terrorist organizations that were not only in Iraq but where sponsored and trained by Iraq. If the WOT is only about Al Quaeda, then all they need to do is change their name and the war is over..

This is like saying you will go after organized crime and only going after the Cosa Nostra, but ignore the rest of the crime families.

15 posted on 08/08/2007 1:37:39 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CJ Wolf
"...They forgot about Osama bin Laden. And what they did, they went into nation- building, not only in Afghanistan, they went unjustifiably over into Iraq. And that’s why we’re in this mess today..."

Simply the truth, regardless of who recognizes it.

16 posted on 08/08/2007 1:38:04 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (PAUL2008)
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Howdy Allegra,

So, from your view over there, all is hunky dory right? No Al Quaeda anywhere.. It must be true, Paul says so..

17 posted on 08/08/2007 1:38:55 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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There was no al-Qaeda in Iraq

Good grief.

How many different ways must this meme be proven false?

18 posted on 08/08/2007 1:39:10 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: mnehrling
I think before responding or making a fight of this, they should consider the source of the article: John Birch Society.

The truth is the truth, no matter who proclaims it.

19 posted on 08/08/2007 1:39:46 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: mnehrling

Uh Huh...


20 posted on 08/08/2007 1:39:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I am a Paulitroll. THOMPSON 2008!)
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