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ID sheriff: more concealed gun permits would boost public safety
Lewiston Tribune via tri-cityherald.com ^ | August 8th, 2007 | NA

Posted on 08/09/2007 2:21:38 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

MOSCOW, Idaho (AP) - The sheriff of a north-central Idaho county where a shooting rampage left four dead and three wounded last May wants more people to obtain concealed weapons permits and carry guns, including on the University of Idaho campus, to improve public safety.

"In my opinion, if there were more students with (concealed weapons permits), the world would be safer," Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch told the Lewiston Tribune on Tuesday. "Just because we (law enforcement officers) are charged with protecting the public, doesn't mean the public shouldn't be able to protect itself."

The university bans guns except under supervised circumstances at its firing range. Except for law enforcement officials, the university requires that firearms "be transported to the range unloaded, encased, with a trigger lock attached or otherwise rendered inoperable."

Rausch's idea also contradicts Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney, who late last month asked for a legal opinion from the state attorney general's office on whether the city has the authority to ban both concealed and exposed weapons in public areas such as city buildings.

Late on May 19, Jason Hamilton killed his wife at their Moscow home before driving to the courthouse and firing some 200 gunshots into a sheriff's dispatch center. There, he killed one law enforcement officer and wounded two others, as well as wounding a man who armed himself and ran to help.

Hamilton then went to the nearby First Presbyterian Church, fatally shooting a caretaker. Hamilton fired as many as 80 rounds inside the church before taking his own life.

Tania Thompson, director of media relations at the university, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that school officials declined to comment about Rausch's push for more concealed weapons on campus.

Chaney did not immediately return a call from the AP.

Sgt. Brannon Jordan, who is still recovering from being shot by Hamilton that night, said he agrees with Rausch when it comes to having more concealed weapons, but added, "When I make contact with a person, I like to be the only one with a gun."

Rausch said people who apply for concealed weapons permits are screened, and are typically not a problem. He said some 540 people in the county now carry concealed weapons.

One of them showed up at Monday's City council meeting and said he was carrying a handgun.

"When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away," David Klingenberg, 36, told the meeting. "I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy."

Rausch is the only law enforcement officer in the county with the authority to issue concealed weapons permits to individuals.

"Most of those are good citizens," he said.

Rausch said that if Moscow officials ban guns in public buildings and parks, they will have to pay to enforce the ban.

"We don't have any system in the courthouse to back up the ban on guns," Rausch said. "The bad guy is going to go right through the door."

He said a metal detector screens people entering the federal building in Moscow, but that the county courthouse, City Hall and other public buildings in the county have no such systems.


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Sgt. Brannon Jordan, who is still recovering from being shot by Hamilton that night, said he agrees with Rausch when it comes to having more concealed weapons, but added, "When I make contact with a person, I like to be the only one with a gun."

HA! At least he's honest.

1 posted on 08/09/2007 2:21:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

An armed society is a polite society.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 2:22:54 PM PDT by stm
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To: neverdem

see also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878325/posts


3 posted on 08/09/2007 2:23:30 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: Jeff Head; Myrddin
BANG!
4 posted on 08/09/2007 2:26:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: xcamel

Thanks for the link.


5 posted on 08/09/2007 2:28:49 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

“He said a metal detector screens people entering the federal building in Moscow, but that the county courthouse, City Hall and other public buildings in the county have no such systems.”

I work in a government building with security, and that just means that the security guard is the first one who gets shot; it’s like being the canary in a mine.


6 posted on 08/09/2007 2:30:12 PM PDT by Spok
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To: neverdem

BIG DITTO.


7 posted on 08/09/2007 2:30:36 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: neverdem

NP - The Heinlien quote never goes out of style...


8 posted on 08/09/2007 2:45:37 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: neverdem

Ping tag for consumption.

Glad you found a longer article. Idaho Statesman just had a snippet.

FYI: www.idahostatesman.com has a poll on the front page related to this article.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 2:50:01 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Domandred; All

http://www.idahostatesman.com/

FReep the poll! It’s over halfway down the page.


10 posted on 08/09/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Spok
In Colorado Springs Co. The El Paso county Sheriff's office has issued over 5000 concealed handgun permits. Boy do I feel safe, cause you really don't know who is packing. Our crime is down also, and at home we have the make my day law in effect. It's probably going to be a home invasion gone BAD!!
11 posted on 08/09/2007 3:39:34 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

In the small town where I live in Idaho, many people carry and the crime rate is very low. In fact, the only murder in the past 10-years was committed with a knife and the guy got off on self-defense.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 3:50:48 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: neverdem
Oh, yeah. The Mayor heard from me on that one. Haven't heard back...

I believe that's the Sheriff who processed my own permit. Good to hear from him.

13 posted on 08/09/2007 4:01:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Chief Engineer; Delphinium; EternalVigilance; Keyes2000mt; Sir_Ed; Knitting A Conundrum; ...
The FR Idaho Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list.

14 posted on 08/09/2007 4:07:21 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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Oh, and I just FReeped the poll on the Idaho Mistakesman site. 57-39 yea/nay


15 posted on 08/09/2007 4:25:33 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: neverdem
Thanks for the ping. FReeped the poll. More concealed carry is a good idea. The fruitcake mayor of Moscow needs to relocate to Chicago, Washington DC or New York City to enjoy the consequences of her gun banning attitude before trying to inflict it on the citizens of Idaho.
16 posted on 08/09/2007 4:50:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: GOP_Raider

nice


17 posted on 08/09/2007 4:51:44 PM PDT by camas
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To: Myrddin

Isn’t Moscow the most lib city in Idaho?


18 posted on 08/09/2007 4:57:19 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Uhhhh, no, that honor goes to the Occupied People’s Republic of Sun Valley. :)


19 posted on 08/09/2007 5:00:59 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Your one stop shop for all your useless information needs.)
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To: GOP_Raider

Moscow can’t be far behind.


20 posted on 08/09/2007 5:03:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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