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Why is the Republican Party attacking our two major presidential candidates?
Intellectual Conservative ^ | August 16, 2007 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 08/17/2007 6:29:39 AM PDT by az4vlad

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What’s going on is this: Martinez appears to be completely simpatico with La Raza. Over the weekend, CSPAN covered a LaRaza panel on immigration. There were five panelists; not one, but two were members of Martinez’s staff.

One of the two was belligerent in her opposition to actions by local governments to deal with illegals. She asserted that “we” (presumably Hispanics) have the numbers to make clear that such actions are “not acceptable.”

Why has the RNC put Martinez at the top? Because of one of Karl Rove’s more ridiculous ideas. Hispanics are the fastest growing demographic. Rove decided that they are therefore crucial to the survival of the GOP. So this is part of the pandering.

It won’t work, and meanwhile the GOP is losing its base, which is presently many times larger than the Hispanic vote.


21 posted on 08/17/2007 6:39:32 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: VictoryGal

Same thing happened to me about a month ago.

Poor girl. She was nice


22 posted on 08/17/2007 6:40:24 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: VictoryGal

VictoryGal you’ve got that right.


23 posted on 08/17/2007 6:40:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: az4vlad
Why is the Republican Party attacking our two major presidential candidates?

Why, just being consistent with what they did to Randy Graf, Pat Twomey and other pubbies who didn't toe the RNC corporatist cheap lobby agenda.

24 posted on 08/17/2007 6:43:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
OK, there is no evidence presented that the RNC is actually attacking Giuliani and Romney. Is there a website? A mailer? Show evidence of the attack or STFU.

Martinez chides GOP candidates

"Sen. Mel Martinez, the head of the Republican National Committee, took a swipe Tuesday at the leading Republican presidential candidates for not offering solid solutions to America's immigration crisis."

"In his remarks, Martinez did not directly refer to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney or former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, but he later suggested both candidates, who were critics of the controversial Senate immigration proposal, had mischaracterized the plan. He also urged audience members to pin down the Republican candidates on immigration when they come to St. Petersburg for the YouTube/CNN Republican presidential debate Nov. 28.

"It can be a little awkward," acknowledged Martinez, a Cuban-immigrant who is neutral in the presidential race but has called Republican presidential candidate John McCain "courageous" for being a champion of the immigration plan that was so unpopular with much of the Republican base."

Martinez is the one who should STFU.

25 posted on 08/17/2007 6:44:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: az4vlad
My tagline has explained it most succinctly.
26 posted on 08/17/2007 6:44:18 AM PDT by Plutarch (To GWB, OBL >> GOP.)
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To: az4vlad

After Labor Day weekend FDThompson announces none of us will be talkin this crap!
Jusy hold on for couple weeks. Jeez.


27 posted on 08/17/2007 6:44:23 AM PDT by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Erik Latranyi
OK, there is no evidence presented that the RNC is actually attacking Giuliani and Romney.

Mel Martinez is the head of the RNC, and he criticized Rudy and Mitt's statements against shamnesty. Deal with it.

28 posted on 08/17/2007 6:44:34 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: az4vlad

After Labor Day weekend FDThompson announces none of us will be talkin this crap!
Just hold on for couple weeks. Jeez.


29 posted on 08/17/2007 6:45:01 AM PDT by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Erik Latranyi
meant to create division within Republican ranks.

Bigger than the one that already exists you mean?

30 posted on 08/17/2007 6:45:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ontap

See my post#16 where I show the exchange.

Martinez does not criticize their “harsh stance” on illegal immigration. He criticizes their attack of the bill without offering alternatives (which is not true, both offered alternative ideas).

This is the MSM trying to drive a wedge in the Republican Party over nothing.

Martinez has been discredited before these statements.


31 posted on 08/17/2007 6:45:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: az4vlad

“The party leadership is out of touch with not only conservative Republicans, but mainstream Republicans as well.”

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Add to that 72% of the general public....both Dumocrats and Republicans.

Stuck on Stupid comes to mind....


32 posted on 08/17/2007 6:45:21 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They have offered an alternative solution, just not the one that Martinez likes. It is called enforcement first. Secure the borders, including tracking and deporting visa overstays, and enforcing the existing laws on the books against employers who employ illegals.


33 posted on 08/17/2007 6:48:33 AM PDT by kabar
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Almost all the candidates, liberal RINOs and Conservatives, have said "ENFORCE THE BORDERS FIRST!" but the Administration and the GOP leadership sock puppets refuse to listen.

The major exception is McCain, who already knows that the Immigration Bill he helped forge was suicidal. He is toast.

34 posted on 08/17/2007 6:49:28 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: az4vlad

“...so why is the RNC trying to scare off the conservative base even more from supporting these realistic candidates?”

So many hidden (and false) assumptions in that one phrase. LOL.


35 posted on 08/17/2007 6:55:12 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The accusation is true, as the chairman of the RNC he should not be criticizing any of our candidates, Mel Martinez is the one driving the wedge.


36 posted on 08/17/2007 6:55:42 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: dirtboy

Add McClintock to the list. Hell, they didn’t even back Santorum after dissing Toomey!


37 posted on 08/17/2007 6:58:19 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: az4vlad
The party leadership is out of touch with not only conservative Republicans, but mainstream Republicans as well.

But the party faithful will hang on [and the RNC leadership knows it, especially when Hillary get the Dem nomination]. The leadership expects that they will vote for the same ole slate of R's.

The faithful will vote for the same, and hope for a different result. [But a different result won't happen.]

For Martinez and Bush, et al, to further they agenda of open (erased) borders and NAU and a globalism, they may decide that they will opt for a new president they can work with in the same vein that Bush proudly touted a Congress he could work with in 06. [Translation: Maybe a Democrat president will further The Agenda more than a Republican one will, so the party leadership may be secretly/silently furthering that effort.]

Politics does make strange bedfellows. And certain special interest groups will continue to encourage comprehensive immigration reform.
38 posted on 08/17/2007 6:58:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Erik Latranyi
Martinez has been discredited before these statements. This is the MSM trying to drive a wedge in the Republican Party over nothing.

Martinez is still the head of the RNC. He should have resigned after the comprehensive immigration bill was defeated this summer. He has become the poster boy for amnesty, which began with the 2006 Hagel-Martinez comprehensive immigration reform bill, that was voted against by Senate Reps 32-23.

Bush's appointment of him as RNC chair has hurt the party. Contributions are down [including mine] because he is still the chair. And the fact that he is interjecting himself into the campaign calling McCain courageous and attacking Romney and Giuliani for mischaracterizing the Senate bill is beyond the pale. Instead of you telling others to STFU, you should direct that comment to Martinez and demand his resignation.

It is not the MSM driving a wedge in the GOP, it is Martinez. The immigration could and should be one of the defining issues of the 2008 campaign. I can assure you that the Martinez position on immigration won't be the one reflected in the GOP platorm for 2008.

39 posted on 08/17/2007 6:59:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: az4vlad

If the RNC is attacking those candidates, it is probably an attempt to make them appear conservative, which they are not. The best way to get press coverage is for Republicans to attack other Republicans. You know “it” and I know “it” and Karl Rove knows “it” and, I’m sure, the RNC knows “it”.


40 posted on 08/17/2007 6:59:44 AM PDT by fewz (Taglines are like a box of chocolates.)
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