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To: WildcatClan
He was a man of honor and courage. He would engage in duels if he thought his honor was questioned.

Yes he was a democrat. What's your point?

The Indians had to be fought and defeated. It was our "Manifest Destiny" to settle the west.

I suspect you are transferring modern day PC to the early 19th century. He probably owned a slave or two.

If he's not a man of honor why does he appear on our $20 Dollar Bill?

The Jacksonian Tradition

His reason was like lightning and his action like a thunderbolt" Amos Kendall,.

Prominent Jacksonians: Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Fred Thompson, Oliver North, Pat Buchanan, Zell Miller

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37 posted on 08/20/2007 7:20:06 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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Fred Thompson for president bump!


38 posted on 08/20/2007 8:10:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
He was a man of honor and courage. He would engage in duels if he thought his honor was questioned. Yes he was a democrat. What's your point? The Indians had to be fought and defeated. It was our "Manifest Destiny" to settle the west. I suspect you are transferring modern day PC to the early 19th century. He probably owned a slave or two. If he's not a man of honor why does he appear on our $20 Dollar Bill?

I am not transferring modern day PC to anything as there is nothing PC about me and likely there never will be. I have no idea about his duels or anything else, but I stand by my analysis, and rightly so. I am not sure what "Indians had to be fought and defeated. It was our Manifest Destiny to settle the West", means or has anything to do with what I posted. If you read my post you would know it had nothing to do with "settling the West". This had nothing to do with the West unless you are referring to the Cherokee being moved West, force marched to Oklahoma in the dead of winter. This was called the Trail of Tears: [http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html]

A Cherokee boy was thought to have found a gold nugget and that was the catalyst for this dark stain on American history. The Cherokee lawyers won their appeal to the Supreme Court, Jackson defied the order of the Supreme Court and in violation of the Constitution had them removed.

Jackson knew these people were not savages and that they were doing nothing other than living their lives on their land. Chief John Ross was a millionaire and quite a few that died on the trail, a 1000 mile forced march were Cherokee Baptist and Methodist ministers. The Cherokee had helped Jackson before and Chief Junaluska saved his life, but later regretted it when he realized Jackson was a man without honor and his word nor his oath meant anything. It wasn't our Manifest Destiny to settle anything. Forcibly removing Christian pastors and ministers, a people whose National Anthem is "Amazing Grace" from Northern Georgia, 1000 miles, 25% of them dying along the way is not something that was granted by God. It was not God, but greed. Why Jackson is on the $20 bill, I haven't a clue. It makes sense that a man of avarice and without honor would have his portrait on money though, if you think about it. I would change it tomorrow if it were in my power to do so. Perhaps replace him with Henry Clay or Davey Crockett, men with honor, who opposed Jackson and his dishonorable policies. How about Sequoyah, John Ross, Junaluska. This has nothing to do with PC and everything to do with the truth. My words stand and it makes my heart sick that anyone could hold this man out as a hero.

39 posted on 08/20/2007 12:09:39 PM PDT by WildcatClan (One vote, Three choices: 1) Socialism 2) Bush Redux 3) DUNCAN HUNTER)
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