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To: Neoliberalnot

I’d have bet a million dollars you’d quote the hackneyed “table salt” analogy.

Monsanto would *never* lie, suppress evidence or study results that would affect their sales, would they?

Toss a little Aspartame on your tofu, just for good measure because “studies” say it’s ‘safe’, too.

http://www.mitra.biz/blog/archives/2005/07/roundup_toxic_a.html

Case in point; I called the local lawn care company to ask what to do for the Chlorophyllum molybdites infestation in my yard and they said -nothing- would work except extreme excavation of the affected area.
*But*, he did suggest I try Roundup because although nothing else on this planet kills that crud, Roundup does put a hurt on it.

[and I’d already tried table salt, amongst about dozen other other “home remedy” suggestions and no, I did *not* resort to Roundup because the mushrooms are in the same yard where the dogs play]

So, as far your defense of Roundup goes, I give up.

Poison your world.
It’s your property.

Personally, I’m going to be calling the manufacturer of the only soy product I use and ask if Roundup ever touches their crop.

If it does, I’m done with them.


116 posted on 08/27/2007 7:53:20 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Salamander

All pesticides are subject to EPA approval including toxicity testing. Your citation of a blog is not a refereed scientific journal. Most of the soybeans raised in the world are now the roundup resistant variety. You will be hard-pressed to find any that aren’t and idenfitying them is problematic. Roundup is not a complex molecule — glycine with a couple of phosphate groups. It ain’t that toxic for animals. It is specifically formulated to interfere with plant biochemistry. You are way off base on this. Check the scientific literature, not the old media or some envirowhack hack.

“mushrooms in the yard” — be careful with mushrooms, Amanita phalloides, even a single cap, is enough to destroy your dog’s liver.

Every food product on the shelf has a variety of chemicals, preservatives, extenders, etc. associated with it. Fruits and vegetables grown in foreign countries are often tainted with pesticides banned in the U.S. long ago. Finally, all natural does not equate with harmless. Think about tornadoes and hurricanes. Aflatoxin, a natural fungal metabolite, is among the most potent liver carcinogen on the planet and it is in your peanut butter.

Please try to put toxic issues in proper perspective. Every thing is toxic, even pure water. The dose is the issue that makes it toxic or safe.


117 posted on 08/27/2007 8:42:25 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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