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To: pacelvi
Notice how they got the wrong in the cartoon as well. InsAllah does not mean "God is great". it means "Allah is great. Allah is not a word for God, it is the NAME of the Islamic god. The Koran is quite clear on this as well, but there are those who would like to make people think Muslims worship the same god as Christians and Jews do. The Arabic word for "god" is ilah.

In the Koran it establishes that "Allah" is his name-

Qur'an 20:8 "Allah! There is no Ilah (God) save Him. His are the most beautiful Names. To Him belong the most beautiful attributes." [Allah is conceited]

The word "allah" is actually a contraction from a phrase used by the pagan arabs,(the god most high) which evolved into the name "Allah" which they called their black rock.

At first, Mohammad called his god Ar-Rahman, because the name "Allah" was already in use by the pagan Arabs in Mecca.

Early arguments between the Pagan Quarish tribe (Mohammads own tribe) have them saying things like "by Allah, we will not believe in YOUR god, Mohammad"

Mohammad wasn't able to take the name "Allah" for his gods name until he slaughtered his own tribe and took the "Ka'aba"(rock god shrine) by force. All the time he spent in exile in Medina his god was called Ar-Rahman. After the conquest of Mecca, Ar-Rahman is never used again.

So while 'allah" may have had it's beginnings as part of a phrase meaning god, it developed into a NAME, and is just that and only that. Personally I say it's another name for Satan.

Qur'an 20:14 "Verily, I am Allah. No Ilah (God) may be worshiped but I. So serve you Me, and perform regular prostration prayer for My praise. Verily the Hour is coming. I am almost hiding it from Myself." [Allah is childish]

Here, "Allah" is telling the Jews that their God is NOT the same as himself, "Allah".

Qur'an 20:96 "Now look at your ilah (god), of whom you have become devoted. We will (burn) it and scatter it in the sea! But your Ilah (God) is Allah: there is no ilah (god) but He. Thus do We relate to you some stories of what happened before from Our own Remembrance."

It's pretty hard to argue "Allah" means god when the Koran argues clearly that it is a NAME.

49 posted on 08/27/2007 12:44:51 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Inshallah means “God [Allah] willing”


59 posted on 08/27/2007 1:18:09 PM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Nathan Zachary

You’re wrong on Allah, as well, arguing from prejudice without any knowledge of Arabic linguistics.

To be clear, the notion that Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship ‘the same God’ is nonsense. I would even dispute that Jews, who deny the doctrine of the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation worship the same God as Christians, if we use terms strictly. But, of charity I will allow they worship a misconception of the same God, since they base their ideas on what we Christians know to be a fragment of the Scriptures, to wit, a part of the Old Covenant Scriptures maintained by the Christ-denying Council of Jamnia in 90 A.D.

I will even argue that the Christian gnostics did not worship the same God as Orthodox Christians, though if you insist they did, I’m afraid you must allow the same extention of ‘sameness’ to the misconception of God presented by Mohammed.

Now, having made my theological commitments clear, back to Arabic linguistics.

In Arabic, as in Greek, monotheists indicate the uniquely existing God, not by capitalizing the word corresponding to ‘god’, but by appending the definite article. Thus “ ‘o theos” = “the god” in Greek is God, just as ‘al illah’ = ‘the god’ in Arabic translates as God.

In Arabic words often elide, so that ‘al illah’ becomes ‘allah’. The fact that ‘allah’ is an elision of ‘al illah’ can be seen from the fact that every Sura of the Koran begins ‘Bismillah’ (usually translated ‘in the name of God’). The article here is absent, the words ‘bism’ and ‘illah’ being run together.

Pre-Mohammedan Christian texts follow the linguistic usage I have set out. The Trisagion Hymn, which runs in English, “Holy God! Holy Mighty! Holy Immortal! Have mercy on us!” and in Greek “Hagios ‘o theos! hagios iscaros! hagios athanatos! Eleison imas!” has been sung as “Quddouson Allah! Quddouson ul-qawee! Quddouson ulladhee la yamout! Irhamna!”
by Arabic speakers from before ever the false prophet Mohammed darkened the world with his demonic teachings, yes, back in the days when the pagans of the Arabian peninsula called their chief moon deity ‘Allah’.

Why? Were the Christians of Damascus identifying the All-Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the second person of which became incarnate for us, and died on the Cross, with the chief pagan deity being worshipped by idolaters a few hundred miles away? No. It’s because Allah is the Arabic word for God, and Arabic speaking Christians have always used it for the All-Holy Trinity, without thought about how others, be it pagans or Mohammedans were or are misusing it.


66 posted on 08/27/2007 1:42:56 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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