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Gay Unions Sanctioned in Medieval Europe [Smells Like BS!!]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070827/sc_livescience/gayunionssanctionedinmedievaleurope ^

Posted on 08/27/2007 1:22:56 PM PDT by Hi Heels

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To: CholeraJoe
Neither did Edward II’s wife. She had him murdered in the traditional way for homosexuals. A red hot poker up the rectum.

And if I recall correctly, the son killed her and her lover for having done it (many years later).

41 posted on 08/27/2007 1:50:20 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Hi Heels
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42 posted on 08/27/2007 1:50:43 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Hi Heels
"If accurate, the results indicate socially sanctioned same-sex unions are nothing new, nor were they taboo in the past."

Don't be elated just because faggotry existed, the graves could be evidence society resisted...

43 posted on 08/27/2007 1:51:08 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Hi Heels
can be interpreted...

Of course it can, anyone can interpret anything any way they want, for example some protestant churches have "interpreted" :

You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

To mean God condones homosexual relations between men.

I'd highly question this "evidence".

44 posted on 08/27/2007 1:51:11 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Hi Heels

There is no proof these were sexual “gay unions”.

“It is impossible to prove either way and probably also somewhat irrelevant to understanding their way of thinking. They loved each other, and the community accepted that.”

No, it is completely relevant. I can’t find it now, but there is evidence of similar arrangements which had their own ceremony in Christian Syria around 400AD but it was more like a blood brother/sister type of arrangement.


45 posted on 08/27/2007 1:51:30 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Hi Heels

>>Okee doke. Show of hands....how many think Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania is gay and a member of a brotherment?<<

First, I read that as brothermeat.

2nd, lets assume this story is completely accurate.
3rd, lets assume that because something was done in medevil times we should do it today.

Even in that case we are still only talking about two adults making a contractual arrangement for property. Any two adults should be able to do that now.

That is not at all the same as gay marriage equivalent to straight marriage.


46 posted on 08/27/2007 1:52:30 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: Hi Heels

A lot of things were ‘sanctioned’ in midieval Europe that the libs would freak out about now, so “Mr.” Tulchin should think about that for awhile.


47 posted on 08/27/2007 1:54:17 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “I’m going going to get medieval on you”.
48 posted on 08/27/2007 1:59:58 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: Hi Heels
Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University

Allan Tulchin????? ... the internationally recognized Nobel Prize-winning expert in forensic anthropology? The man who is to dusty bones what Carl Sagan was to the stars? The sage whose name was changed to "Indiana Jones" so Spielberg wouldn't get sued?

You mean THAT Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University?????

49 posted on 08/27/2007 2:03:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: SampleMan

While the scene in Brave Heart is one of the few comic moments in the film, it wasn’t true. Although it crossed Longshanks mind on more than one occasion to rid his court of the pantywaist fop. Piers Galveston died of “natural cause” in England. They cut his head off. Looks like Edward III didn’t hold a grudge against Isabella.


50 posted on 08/27/2007 2:05:29 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Hi Heels

This guy is lying, and others will call him on it. Some other guy tried to assert that the old Catholic Church did gay weddings in the dark ages, and was shot down pretty fast. I expect the same will happen to this asshat as well.


51 posted on 08/27/2007 2:06:06 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Hi Heels
LOL!

What? No equal civil rights for the ladies? No sisterhoods? Oh, the humanity!

52 posted on 08/27/2007 2:06:10 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: dblshot
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “I’m going going to get medieval on you”.

I think the phrase is get medieval on your @$$

53 posted on 08/27/2007 2:06:26 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Hi Heels

Man what about Scotland of that same time period....maybe it was William and Wallace. Nights are cold in the Scottish Highlands.


54 posted on 08/27/2007 2:06:45 PM PDT by badpacifist ("I don't think you understand these boys killed my dog" Bob Lee Swagger)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Excellent point!


55 posted on 08/27/2007 2:06:59 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: MEGoody
“The truth will make you free” Yes, there is the rub. Who knows for sure what is the truth. I understand homosexuality to be a handicap. Clearly the human body was not designed to be joined male to male or female to female. Therefore those who have that preference are handicapped - just as those who have lost some other normal function. The lose or absence of a normal function is not something to be degraded or ridiculed but it is also not something to be celebrated. Therefore I view homosexuality as something to be understood with compassion but not to be celebrated as anything other than an anomaly which is unfortunate.
56 posted on 08/27/2007 2:13:54 PM PDT by Batman ("Who are you?" I'm Batman.)
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To: VRWCmember

ROTFLMAO!!!


57 posted on 08/27/2007 2:15:43 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Hi Heels

“For example, he found legal contracts from late medieval France that referred to the term “affrèrement,” roughly translated as brotherment.”

So medieval France sanctioned gay incest?

Seriously, these types of living arrangements (aka partnerships) had nothing to do with sex and if you accused those men of being gay back then they would beaten you senseless.


58 posted on 08/27/2007 2:17:46 PM PDT by Hacklehead (I'm not here to make friends.)
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To: Hi Heels
"un pain, un vin, et une bourse,"

Having read much medieval history, the type of contract described brings to mind "brotherhoods" such as the Templars or Hospitilars more than pseudo-homosexual unions. Such Orders commonly swore all their worldly goods to the Order.

59 posted on 08/27/2007 2:19:53 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Hi Heels

I am not gay, but I believe in "un pain, un vin, et une bourse," especially the purse part

60 posted on 08/27/2007 2:21:46 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sell - Cheap)
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