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Researcher's Say Italy's 5,000-Year-Old Iceman Died From Head Trauma, Not Arrow (Oetzi)
IHT ^ | 8-28-2007

Posted on 08/29/2007 9:26:19 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam; Monkey Face; The Spirit Of Allegiance

Oetzi was a hunter, and he was slain by local farmers for trespassing. Yes, his death was the work of another cereal killer.


41 posted on 08/29/2007 10:28:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Red Badger
The people from Cold Case will sort it all out.

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42 posted on 08/29/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Hacklehead
Its all just speculation masquarading as science. No one could have fallen with his arm like that... Utter BS.

>That was my take as well. The body been out there for 5,000 years being shifted around by ice, snow, wind and who knows what else. He was probably located quite a distance from where is actually fell.

43 posted on 08/29/2007 10:33:06 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: afortiori
"If Oetzi was killed by enemy fighters, why didn’t they take his copper axe, or his quiver? "

Excellent observation and I agree.

The discovery of Oetzi's copper axe moved the European copper age back in time by 1,000 years.

44 posted on 08/29/2007 10:38:01 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

I didn’t know Larry King knew how to use a bow and arrow


45 posted on 08/29/2007 10:38:06 AM PDT by Battle of Tours
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To: blam
Oetzi's DNA haplogroup is 'K', same as Thomas Jefferson's.

Aha! Oetzi fathered Sally Hemmings offspring, and was killed to hush him up!

46 posted on 08/29/2007 10:39:58 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: SunkenCiv
*groan*



*crickets*

47 posted on 08/29/2007 10:51:51 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Expose yourself to new people, but make sure none of them are undercover cops.)
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48 posted on 08/29/2007 10:53:22 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hey, your tagline tops everything else in the thread! ;’)

Thanks! ;o])

49 posted on 08/29/2007 10:53:45 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Expose yourself to new people, but make sure none of them are undercover cops.)
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To: Red Badger

Probably not “clonable” due to deterioration, but why do so — we already have Ted Kenndy>


50 posted on 08/29/2007 11:15:16 AM PDT by tracer
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To: LexBaird
Aha! Oetzi fathered Sally Hemmings offspring, and was killed to hush him up!

Nah. I think it was just a hunting accident. Probably Oetzi was hunting with someone from Dick Cheney's haplogroup.

51 posted on 08/29/2007 11:24:40 AM PDT by elli1
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I guess this is certainly a cold case.


52 posted on 08/29/2007 11:28:58 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Monkey Face

Wheat rye to oat do previous efforts, without too much s corn.


53 posted on 08/29/2007 11:53:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now you’re talking like one of my brothers! LOL!

He wrote an entire letter to me written like that...it took me two days to figure out what he was saying....


54 posted on 08/29/2007 11:59:05 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Expose yourself to new people, but make sure none of them are undercover cops.)
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To: Monkey Face

:’) I’m difficult to understand for reasons of incoherence. ;’)


55 posted on 08/29/2007 12:07:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m the same way! Only different! ;o]


56 posted on 08/29/2007 12:09:47 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Expose yourself to new people, but make sure none of them are undercover cops.)
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To: blam
"But radiologists, pathologists and other researchers, using new forensic information and CAT scans, said Tuesday they believed that the blood loss from the arrow wound only made Oetzi lose consciousness. They believe he died either by hitting his head on a rock when he passed out or because his aggressor attacked him again with a blow to the head." New Forensics! And how meny people went to the slam because of the old forensics?
57 posted on 08/29/2007 12:51:53 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: afortiori

“If Oetzi was killed by enemy fighters, why didn’t they take his copper axe, or his quiver?”

One article I read used your two points here, as well as the fact that the killer removed his own arrow from the body, as arguments that the iceman was killed by someone in his own tribe. Someone who didn’t want to get caught, either by leaving his own arrow in the iceman’s back, or by showing up in camp with his property. Made pretty good sense to me.


58 posted on 08/29/2007 3:47:43 PM PDT by NewMexLurker
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To: blam

Imagine you’re trying to escape from enemies who’ve already wounded you fatally. You’re moving away—forward, possibly running, when you become faint from loss of blood.

How do you fall? Forward. Maybe you’ve had your hand on the wound, trying to stanch the blood loss from the artery so where does your hand wind up? Underneath you, folded across your chest.

To me, the least likely scenario is that he fell over backwards and then was rolled over by enemies who forgot to loot his body of very valuable tools.


59 posted on 08/29/2007 4:57:49 PM PDT by wildbill
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Researchers studying Iceman, the 5,000-year-old mummy found frozen in the Italian Alps, have come up with a new theory for how he died...

Oetzi was a hunter, and he was slain by local farmers for trespassing. Yes, his death was the work of another cereal killer.


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60 posted on 08/29/2007 7:38:12 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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