[Eagles Talon IV]

I’m looking at world history here and recent American history, for example the example of Reagan in Beirut.

So then, as far as you're concerned, we ran once so we should run again? Running from a fight NEVER solves anything and when you consider who we are at war with this is doubly true. Time and time again we have seen these animals fight longer and harder in the face of what they consider weakness. Time and time again we have seen that the ONLY language they understand is force. Overwhelming, crushing and absolutely crippling force.

I believe your problem is you are confusing these rabid freaks with human beings and trying to apply logic and reasoned thought to their actions and reactions. It is not possible to reason with people whose goal in a conflict is actually to DIE!

[jveritas]

I think you and I are wasting our time with this guy, he is a defeatist, very confused and ignorant about history and the nature of the enemy, then he hides his defeatism behind the “fake Machoism” where in he wants to kill every muslim on the planet, but he does not want to kill the islamic terrorists in Iraq which become the center front of the war on terror.