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1 posted on 08/31/2007 10:39:07 AM PDT by bill1952
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Legal immigration, I have no problem..Illegals should be expelled from the country


2 posted on 08/31/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by Moderate right-winger (Unity 2008)
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To: bill1952

—and I am delighted that I will be long dead-—we should have stopped growth at about 1940 level-—


3 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:24 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: bill1952

Legal immigration yes.
Provided “chain immigration” is limited and the practice of “anchor babies”
is removed from the books.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 10:46:07 AM PDT by VOA
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Mexico ‘only’ has 100 million people as it is. That says something about how crappy the country is if 10-20 percent of the population at any given time has smuggled themselves out of the country.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 10:49:46 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: bill1952

There is no shortage of people in spite of the warnings of those who are worried about falling birth rates.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 10:51:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: bill1952

Wattenberg is obviously a moron...suggesting that the the US is underpopulated because he doesn’t see enough urban development in the “Flyover States.”

Has he ever heard the term “nation’s breadbasket”?

In the past 10 years I’ve already seen what I consider a disturbing amount of urban and suburban sprawl into what were formerly prime farmlands around Kansas City and Topeka, and a wholesale paving-over of Central Texas.

Yo, Wattenberg...farms DO tend to look like empty land from the air, but that’s where you get your food, fool...and in the future, that may be where you get the fuel for your car.


14 posted on 08/31/2007 10:58:15 AM PDT by CarolTX (Onward through the fog)
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To: bill1952

Who cares what we want. Ted Kennedy won. We are screwed.


16 posted on 08/31/2007 11:01:15 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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is equal to 13 New York Cities

Yecchh, in more ways than one.

17 posted on 08/31/2007 11:02:08 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: bill1952

If our elites invited in the best available candidates only.. there would be a decent argumetn in favor of immigration. For example if we were getting well educated 20-30 year old Russians, Chinese and Brits.. all eager to live in a free and capitalist society to make their own way in life.. Our nation would be slowly being improved by immigration.. Becoming younger, more intelligent and more freedom oriented.

Our elites don’t want those people.. they want the poorest, least able to assimilate and prosper immigrants. Who will not compete against elite children for the good jobs, and who will demand an expansion of the welfare state.


21 posted on 08/31/2007 11:07:57 AM PDT by ran20
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22 posted on 08/31/2007 11:09:57 AM PDT by gubamyster
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These projections should alarm; but then the idiotic Kennedy backed Immigration Act of 1965 should have alarmed. The lack of interest in preserving the essential characteristics of the Nation the Founding Fathers created--which includes not only certain ethnic traits, but large open spaces, with less hustle and bustle than the old world, and more opportunity to reflect on the nature of Government and a political society--has long saddened me. Yes, those who want to internationalize America use the tactics of the smear and intimidation to silence dissent; but it should never have worked as well as it has.

Well, some of us continue to fight on. The September Essay for The Return Of The Gods Web Site is very much in point on one aspect of the problem:

September, 2007 Feature>>
A Bicentennial Ignored [200th Anniversay Of Intended End To Bringing In Others To Do Work Americans Do Not Want To Do]

William Flax

24 posted on 08/31/2007 11:13:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Without control of immigration it is estimated that the population in California will grow by 30 million more people by 2050. Standing room only. But hey..........even the illegals don’t realize that they will used by the politicians and they will have nothing.


28 posted on 08/31/2007 11:17:09 AM PDT by RC2
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Immigrants from where?

Right now, the birthrate of Mexico has dropped to between 2.1 and 2.3 children per family. So unless Mexico opens the door wide to immigrants from central and South America, everybody else will have to cross either the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.

On top of that, though few people realize it, most of the people in the US are clustered around New York and Los Angeles. The secondary clusters are on the East and West coasts. But look at the rest of the US! There are about 13 ENTIRE STATES that don’t have hardly any people at all!

http://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/thematic-maps/usa-population-map.html


31 posted on 08/31/2007 11:21:39 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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The dialogue about limiting immigration is beginning to border on racism, in my observation


35 posted on 08/31/2007 11:28:22 AM PDT by Moderate right-winger (Unity 2008)
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btt


37 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:17 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bill1952

We don’t need all those people no matter from what country.


60 posted on 08/31/2007 12:06:21 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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The 3rd world supremacists love open borders


69 posted on 08/31/2007 12:21:02 PM PDT by Rosemont
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Wattenberg also said America "is a wonderful place to live, because wonderful people live here," but there is "always some kind of nativist, anti-immigrant feeling." All immigrant groups "start out being hated," but one or two generations later, "they end up being assimilated into U.S. society." Today's "hate du jour" is toward Mexicans, even though the largest percentage of Medal of Honor winners are Mexican immigrants, he added.

This kind of irrational, sentimental crap makes be wanna rip my hair out by the roots - it is so idiotic, its criminal.

Its not worthy of someone otherwise as intelligent as Dr Wattenberg. He sounds like an emotional pollyanna.

75 posted on 08/31/2007 12:24:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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From the appearance of southern California they are already here.


92 posted on 08/31/2007 8:08:20 PM PDT by Pelham (California- because we're special.)
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I think they are wrong....about 200 to 300 million more would be a closer estimate.


95 posted on 08/31/2007 9:02:24 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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