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A frustrating evening (the debate)
Powerline ^ | 9/6/07 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 09/06/2007 9:21:16 AM PDT by pissant

I found the debate frustrating. Neither of the top tier candidates -- Giuliani and Romney -- had a good night. Giuliani took a big hit early over his 1994 statement welcoming illegal immigrants to New York. Thereafter, he seemed to answer most questions by referring to New York city crime statistics. He needs to diversify

Romney seemed defensive and, at times, evasive. His answers on Iraq were rambling. When the deputy sheriff in the restaurant called him out for not articulating an "end game" strategy, Romney was unable, I thought, to take advantage of the opportunity.

McCain did pretty well. At a minimum, as always, he answered the questions. I can conceive of him having a "surge" in New Hampshire as the "straight talk" candidate, particularly if Giuliani and Romney don't step it up.

Huckabee had another decent night, and I give points to anyone who takes on Ron Paul. But (as Romney pointed out) the "broken pottery" analogy in Iraq misses the most important reason for why we need to keep fighting -- namely the implications of the outcome on the war against terror. Huckabee also totally ducked the final question concerning what we should do if Iran continues on its present course towards becoming a nuclear power.

Duncan Hunter was, once again, the best of the rest.

Sam Brownback continues to be a huge disappointment. If the best he can do is channel Tom Friedman, it's clearly time for him to withdraw.

UPDATE: For what it's worth, Fox's focus group agreed with me that McCain did better than the two front-runners, and that Rudy talked too much about New York.


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"Duncan Hunter was once again, the best of the rest"

Frankly, Hunter was the only one on the stage other than Paul who did not have to tapdance around his pathetic record. Rudy lied through his teeth, again, saying he did not go after guns, but criminals. Huckabee stinks on illegal immigration, and Fox's use of his quote calling anti-amnesty people racist sunk him. Tanc has decent answers but is a nervous nellie up there. McCain is still defending amnesty. And Mitt was pretty good, though rambling on Iraq, and his record does not match his rhetoric.

All in all, another pretty good night for Hunter. The only one who never sticks his foot in his mouth.

1 posted on 09/06/2007 9:21:18 AM PDT by pissant
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2 posted on 09/06/2007 9:22:08 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
I agree, Duncan had a great night, the rest just had so-so. Of course the Hukabee/Paul exchange was what kept me awake.

At least 5 more minutes.

3 posted on 09/06/2007 9:27:03 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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4 posted on 09/06/2007 9:27:42 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: pissant

Paul is not tapdancing around his pathetic record ... his anti-American stance is a clog dance.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 9:28:41 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: pissant

I thought Duncan didn’t get enough air time, it seemed they were avoiding him. Especially the first question about FRed.


6 posted on 09/06/2007 9:30:02 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true FRiend. Israel.)
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To: pissant

Groups like Club for Growth don’t seem to be very high on Hunter. What is your opinion on that?


7 posted on 09/06/2007 9:30:38 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hey, as Dennis Prager says, “I appreciate clarity”. Paul is a nut. He never fails to demonstrate that.


8 posted on 09/06/2007 9:31:06 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

He’s a patholgical liar. In every campaign he’s in, he morphs himself, and he believes his own bs.


9 posted on 09/06/2007 9:31:30 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true FRiend. Israel.)
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To: papasmurf

Which one? LOL


10 posted on 09/06/2007 9:32:21 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Red_Devil 232
"his anti-American stance is a clog dance."

Uncalled for. The flag is waving, targets are up and you get Maggie's drawers. Paul does not want Americans to be the targets as nation builders.

11 posted on 09/06/2007 9:33:33 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: pissant
A nut AND a liar.

Last night he stated that the admin said Iraq would be a “cakewalk.” The only other places I’ve seen that lie parrotted around is DU, Kos, etc. Maybe that’s where he got his material.

12 posted on 09/06/2007 9:35:28 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: pissant
Haha. Mitt.

Guilani is just narcissistic, and spin meister.

However, for me there are only two candidates left, and that’s all I care about now.

FRed and Duncan.

13 posted on 09/06/2007 9:37:22 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true FRiend. Israel.)
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To: ex-snook

That is a legit argument. But saying that AQ does not want us on the Arabian peninsula is the weakest possible argument imaginable.


14 posted on 09/06/2007 9:38:52 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ex-snook

I never got a Maggie’s drawers ... my aim and is straight and true ... Ron Paul is your Maggie’s drawers!


15 posted on 09/06/2007 9:39:01 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: pissant
I had forgotten the “racist” comment from Huckabee. Okay. That strikes another from the list of possibles. Off my list (in order of first to go) are: Paul, Brownback, Tommy Thompson, Juliani (I can never spell his name right), Tancredo and Huckabee — all for various and sundry reasons. I’m for (and always have been) a Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter ticket. It remains to be seen if they can hang on to my support.

In the long-run, however, my vote will be for anybody but Hillary Clinton, John Edwards or Barrack Obama.

16 posted on 09/06/2007 9:40:49 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I’m a member of the Club for Growth and I will defend Duncan against their rating. The CFG rates all spending/pork as a negative, even if it is military spending. This has been the main negative they have with Duncan (spending.)


17 posted on 09/06/2007 9:40:59 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is a FRAUD- No ifs, ands, or buts about it)
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To: ex-snook
Paul does not want Americans to be the targets as nation builders.

He just wants all Americans to be easy targets for terrorists at home and abroad.

18 posted on 09/06/2007 9:41:55 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: KJC1

An almost exact quote of the administration is ‘this will be a long, hard fight’.. President Bush never said cakewalk..


19 posted on 09/06/2007 9:42:19 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is a FRAUD- No ifs, ands, or buts about it)
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To: pissant
Giuliani (as he said again in the debate last night) has no problem with 'sanctuary cities' as long as the illegals are not breaking the law.

Say what? I wish that one of the other candidates would have challenged him on that one by saying, "Think about what you just said, Rudy".

That was the outrage of the night--and no one really 'called him on those idiotic comments'!

So Rudy has no problem with 'law-abiding' illegals??? Huh??? By definition, ILLEGALS are not law-abiding citizens--they ARE breaking the law.

20 posted on 09/06/2007 9:43:49 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative nominee who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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