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China's own regional jet may have first foreign order
www.chinaview.cn ^ | 09/21/2007

Posted on 09/23/2007 12:11:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

China's own regional jet may have first foreign order

www.chinaview.cn 2007-09-21 00:12:45

SHANGHAI, Sept. 20 (Xinhua) -- China's first independently developed commercial regional jet, the ARJ-21, may be ordered for the first time by a foreign company in the near future, an official with AVIC I Commercial Aircraft company said on Thursday.

The company signed a memorandum of understanding with Lao Airlines on July 2 in which Lao Airlines agreed to buy two jets, the official said. Both parties are working on details of the deal.

Seventy-one jets have been ordered by domestic companies so far this year and another nine were expected for the remaining months of this year, the official added.

The maiden flight of ARJ-21, which is short for "advanced regional jet for the 21st century", is scheduled for March 2008 and mass production will begin in 2009.

AVIC I Commercial Aircraft company is soliciting names from the public for ARJ-21. It will stop accepting submissions on Sept. 28,and the name, which will have two to four Chinese characters, will be finalized and released at the end of December.

Chinese experts said the ARJ-21 has given China a late but powerful presence in its own commercial aviation market, which until now has been dominated by foreign aircraft manufacturers such as Boeing and Airbus.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; avic; china; laoairlines; laos
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The ARJ21 regional jet is being developed in China, by the AVIC I Commercial Aircraft Company (ACAC), based in Shanghai.The ARJ21 is powered by two General Electric CF34-10A engines which are pod mounted at the rear of the fuselage forward of the swept T-tail.

1 posted on 09/23/2007 12:11:20 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Who did they rip off, design wise?


2 posted on 09/23/2007 12:39:57 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Probably somewhat heavy being it’s constructed out of lead.


3 posted on 09/23/2007 12:57:32 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Captainpaintball
It's a Boeing 717 with the winglets from a later-model 737. You can tell from the tail that it's an MD-series design that got turned into a "Boeing" after the merger.


4 posted on 09/23/2007 1:08:30 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Captainpaintball

By the way, these 717’s are used by the Air Tran corporation in experiments designed to test whether long-legged humans can be turned into paraplegics by cutting off all circulation to their legs.


5 posted on 09/23/2007 1:13:55 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Nick Danger

Where’s the winglets? I don’t see any in the pic.


6 posted on 09/23/2007 1:16:22 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Captainpaintball; Nick Danger
Who did they rip off, design wise?

The basic design follows that of the BAC 1-11, which pre-dated the DC-9 by a couple of years. So it is pretty much a basic early 1960s British design that's been followed by the Americans (DC-9, MD-80, 717) , Russians (TU-134, RRJ), Brazilians, and Canadians (CRJ). The Dutch also used a similar layout, the French Caravelle has a noticeably different tail.

Of course, the larger and earlier VC-10 has a similar layout, but with 4 engines. (See also the similar Russian IL-52 and the much smaller Lockheed Jetstar for similar 4 engine designs.)

Since it predates the BAC, I guess the answer to your question is "Vickers".

7 posted on 09/23/2007 1:36:29 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Typo on the Russian plane - make that IL-62.


8 posted on 09/23/2007 1:46:31 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Oh goody, lead paint in the cockpit and tainted meals in flight for less money. I can’t wait.


9 posted on 09/23/2007 1:50:52 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Oh goody, lead paint in the cabin and tainted meals in flight for less money. I can’t wait.


10 posted on 09/23/2007 1:51:08 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: mamelukesabre
Where’s the winglets?

Where's the fortune cookie?

11 posted on 09/23/2007 2:06:34 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti

Is your tray folded in the upright position? Check under your seat.


12 posted on 09/23/2007 2:11:46 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Captainpaintball

China began assembling MD-82s for McDonnell Douglas in Shanghai in 1986. A case of makee, learnee, copy.


13 posted on 09/23/2007 2:20:28 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
A case of makee, learnee, copy.

There are a bunch of Chinese and they're at least as smart as Westerners... and damned hard working. I doubt it'll stop long at "copy," if it did stop there.

14 posted on 09/23/2007 4:48:07 AM PDT by Grut
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To: sukhoi-30mki

China’s own regional jet may have first foreign order ...

it will soon be revealed that these chicom jets have too much lead in them....either they will be recalled or due to the lead fall from the sky!!!!


15 posted on 09/23/2007 5:59:42 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Captainpaintball
Who did they rip off, design wise?

Looks like the DC-9/717.

16 posted on 09/23/2007 6:02:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Captainpaintball

Looks to me like a cross between a Boeing 717 (formerly the McDonnell-Douglas MD-95, the last member of the DC-9/MD-80/MD-90 family) and a Fokker 100.

}:-)4


17 posted on 09/23/2007 7:14:09 AM PDT by Moose4 (I will never forget. I will never forgive.)
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To: Moose4

To be precise, the body of the aircraft is indeed that of the McDonnell-Douglass MD-90 or very close to it. The company provided tooling and production equipment to China during the early 90’s and they are being used for the production of the ARJ-21 (waste not want not). After the merger between McDonnell-Douglass with Boeing in the late 90’s, Boeing terminated production of the MD-90 apparently because of internal competition with it’s own Boeing 737-800 series of aircraft, though it did sell a number of MD-95’s (Not actually a MD-80/90 series aircraft, but a modernized DC-9-30).

The new section of the ARJ-21 as someone else noticed is the wings, though these were not taken from any Boeing aircraft but rather newly developed with the assistance of Antonov.


18 posted on 09/23/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: Nick Danger

Not too many long-legged Chinese, though. ;^)


19 posted on 09/23/2007 8:40:25 AM PDT by Teacher317
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