Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: BenLurkin

Part of me wonders if what Martin Luther did to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany on October 31, 1517would have been considered tagging or vandalism today?


6 posted on 09/25/2007 11:12:30 PM PDT by Starwolf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Starwolf

Neither.


8 posted on 09/25/2007 11:14:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf
Part of me wonders if what Martin Luther did to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany on October 31, 1517would have been considered tagging or vandalism today?

If the tagger had scratched the text of 95 Theses..., or a modern equivalent on the glass & granite, you might have a point.

"B1R" is just plain vandalism.

10 posted on 09/25/2007 11:20:45 PM PDT by CurlyDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf

Notice anything different?

11 posted on 09/25/2007 11:21:42 PM PDT by dr_lew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf
Part of me wonders if what Martin Luther did to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany on October 31, 1517would have been considered tagging or vandalism today?

probably not...

12 posted on 09/25/2007 11:22:18 PM PDT by latina4dubya
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf
"Part of me wonders if what Martin Luther did to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany on October 31, 1517would have been considered tagging or vandalism today?"

Which do you think will have a tougher sentence imposed? The recent vandal or Martin Luther?

14 posted on 09/25/2007 11:29:28 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf
Just for historical context:

In 1516-17, Johann Tetzel, a Dominican friar and papal commissioner for indulgences, was sent to Germany by the Roman Catholic Church to sell indulgences to raise money to rebuild St Peter's Basilica in Rome. In Roman Catholic theology, an "indulgence" is the remission of punishment because a sin already committed has been forgiven; the indulgence is granted by the church when the sinner confesses and receives absolution. When an indulgence is given, the church is extending merit to a sinner from its Treasure House of Merit, an accumulation of merits it has collected based on the good deeds of the saints. These merits could be bought and sold.

On October 31, 1517, Luther wrote to Albert, Archbishop of Mainz and Magdeburg, protesting the sale of indulgences. He enclosed in his letter a copy of his "Disputation of Martin Luther on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences," which came to be known as The 95 Theses. Hans Hillerbrand writes that Luther had no intention of confronting the church, but saw his disputation as a scholarly objection to church practices, and the tone of the writing is accordingly "searching, rather than doctrinaire." Hillerbrand writes that there is nevertheless an undercurrent of challenge in several of the theses, particularly in Thesis 86, which asks: "Why does not the pope, whose wealth today is greater than the wealth of the richest Crassus, build the basilica of St. Peter with his own money rather than with the money of poor believers?"

Luther objected to a saying attributed to Johann Tetzel that "[a]s soon as the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs," insisting that, since forgiveness was God's alone to grant, those who claimed that indulgences absolved buyers from all punishments and granted them salvation were in error. Christians, he said, must not slacken in following Christ on account of such false assurances.

According to Philip Melanchthon, writing in 1546, Luther nailed a copy of the 95 Theses to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg that same day — church doors acting as the bulletin boards of his time — an event now seen as sparking the Protestant Reformation, and celebrated every October 31 as Reformation Day. Some scholars have questioned the accuracy of Melanchthon's account, noting that no contemporaneous evidence exists for it. Others have countered that no such evidence is necessary, because this was the customary way of advertising an event on a university campus in Luther's day.

The 95 Theses were quickly translated from Latin into German, printed, and widely copied, making the controversy one of the first in history to be fanned by the printing press. Within two weeks, the theses had spread throughout Germany; within two months throughout Europe.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther (Footnote numbers edited from text.)

The short answer is no. Nailing it to the door was acceptable practice then. And today, Martin Luther would have probably used the equivalent modern means - adhesive tape - to temporarily affix the document to the church's door or, more likely, stapled it to an advertising kiosk in the university commons area (a place where it might actually be noticed given the low estate that church attendance and religious observance has fallen to on university campuses these days).

31 posted on 09/26/2007 3:16:55 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Peace based on respected strength is truly peace; peace based on weakness is ignoble slavery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

To: Starwolf

It was common practice in Martin Luther’s time to nail lecture notes to the door. It has never been common practice to vandalize.


34 posted on 09/26/2007 4:26:27 AM PDT by GingisK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson