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Fairfax Considers Car Wash Ban In Front Yards
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=global_warm&id=5685674 ^ | 10/1/2007 | wayne freedman

Posted on 10/03/2007 6:45:26 AM PDT by racing fan

FAIRFAX, Calif., Oct. 1, 2007 (KGO) - For all the big debates about the environment and global warming, there are small ones, as well. Consider the town of Fairfax in Marin County. Residents are looking hard at a proposal some say violates a basic right -- to wash your car in your front yard.

It is the kind of environmental debate you're likely to find only in a mostly affluent community.

One resident asks, "do you save the fish or wash your car?"

It's the debate du jour in Marin County's Fairfax. There's a town council proposal to ban residents from washing their cars in front of their houses, for fear of what the runoff may do to fish in their creeks, and downstream in the ocean.

"I think that the spirit of the ordinance is a good one," says Lew Tremaine with the Fairfax town council.

"Well we have a strategic plan that has been intended to make sure that we go green as fast as we can on a lot of levels. This is just another one of those levels," says Vice Mayor Mary-Ann Maggiore.

Fairfax has already banned pesticides, styrofoam and plastic bags. This ordinance would empower police to write tickets in extreme cases.

"They would probably just issue them a warning and that would be an opportunity to educate the person," says Lindy Kelly, town manager.

In reality, most parties expect some kind of compromise like biodegradable soaps, for instance. However, those would not spare the environment from all the all other stuff soap would remove, and the nearest full-service car wash is three miles down the road in San Rafael.

A car wash is a closed system. All the soap, all the grime, goes into a drain and then it's reused.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bayarea; carwash; fairfax; marin
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More crazyness where I live.
1 posted on 10/03/2007 6:45:27 AM PDT by racing fan
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To: racing fan

How. pray tell, do they reuse the grime?


2 posted on 10/03/2007 6:46:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: racing fan

Wow. You live there? Please tell me you are the town shrink and business is good.


3 posted on 10/03/2007 6:47:50 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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To: racing fan

How many members of the town council own car washes?


4 posted on 10/03/2007 6:48:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: racing fan
I don't see cops policing this one.

That being said, my local town just banned car-washing at home. We're in the midst of a pretty bad drought. They also banned lawn-watering, and some other stuff, too.

5 posted on 10/03/2007 6:50:38 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dfwgator
How many members of the town council own car washes?

Very good question. And do they think that driving to the car wash and back represents the "green" approach? Let's see - 5 miles there, 5 back - that's 1/2 gallon of gas wasted for each weekly car wash. And the car wash uses water, and some fairly strong soap as well (especially the brushless version). Plus, it costs more to have it washed than it does to do it yourself.

6 posted on 10/03/2007 6:53:48 AM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: racing fan

>>This ordinance would empower police to write tickets in extreme cases. <<

Huh? Full contact car washing?


7 posted on 10/03/2007 6:54:12 AM PDT by shove_it (nonillegitimous carborundum)
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To: NonValueAdded

How. pray tell, do they reuse the grime?
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Sell it to Taco Bell?


8 posted on 10/03/2007 6:55:13 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: racing fan
From the article:

"I think it's an American's right to participate in a community for the good of the community," says Vice Mayor Maggiore.

I don't know whether to laugh, scream or cry.
9 posted on 10/03/2007 7:03:51 AM PDT by frossca
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To: racing fan

I would be almost certain that in this era of environmental law suits the manufacturers of car washing detergents have thought of this problem and made the ingredients biodegradable and non toxic. I would also think the local police would have more important tasks to do than being environmental nannies. Is there no crime in this community or do they have so many cops on the street they need to give them something to do?


10 posted on 10/03/2007 7:05:38 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: meyer
Very good question. And do they think that driving to the car wash and back represents the "green" approach? Let's see - 5 miles there, 5 back - that's 1/2 gallon of gas wasted for each weekly car wash. And the car wash uses water, and some fairly strong soap as well (especially the brushless version). Plus, it costs more to have it washed than it does to do it yourself.

You left out the fact the water will end up in the same place as it does when they wash the car at home, in the streams and oceans, which is what they are bitching about.

11 posted on 10/03/2007 7:20:36 AM PDT by calex59
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To: racing fan
"They would probably just issue them a warning and that would be an opportunity to educate the person," says Lindy Kelly, town manager.

Spoken like a true conmmunist dictator. Let's now set up education camps for car washers./SAR

12 posted on 10/03/2007 7:22:05 AM PDT by calex59
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To: racing fan

"Paging Dr. Bonner...."
13 posted on 10/03/2007 7:25:58 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: NonValueAdded
In reality, most parties expect some kind of compromise like biodegradable soaps, for instance. However, those would not spare the environment from all the all other stuff soap would remove, and the nearest full-service car wash is three miles down the road in San Rafael.

Here's another idiot remark. The "other stuff" that is washed off of cars is road grime(dirt, road tar, etc), all this stuff washes down to the ocean when it rains, I guess we are going to have to ban rain except over ocean areas so that "other stuff" doesn't run off into it and kill the fish. The stupidity of leftists is amazing, but what is more amazing is the stupidity of the conservatives who vote them back into office year after year.

14 posted on 10/03/2007 7:28:07 AM PDT by calex59
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To: racing fan
says Lindy Kelly, town manager.

If women ruled the world we would be mothered to death.

15 posted on 10/03/2007 7:28:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: dfwgator

That was my first thought as well. Someone is profiting from this on the council. Just like a zoning/sewer moratorium we are going through in trying to sell some land. Oddly, commmercial was not part of the issue for some inexplicable reason. I almost called the council on it in the most recent letter I wrote.


16 posted on 10/03/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by doodad
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To: wbill
Global warming causes hurricanes AND droughts.
17 posted on 10/03/2007 7:35:26 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: racing fan

“They would probably just issue them a warning and that would be an opportunity to educate the person,” says Lindy Kelly, town manager.”

My goodness, do these people even realize that words have meaning. Now the cops will become green teachers and educate the ignorant soul who washed his/her car at home. If this does not represent the myopic thinking of the left, I don’t know what else could.


18 posted on 10/03/2007 7:38:03 AM PDT by Bruinator
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To: racing fan
There's a town council proposal to ban residents from washing their cars in front of their houses, for fear of what the runoff may do to fish in their creeks, and downstream in the ocean.
For fear of? No tests, no science involved, just fear? Why don't they build a water treatment facility?
Freakin' "watermelons" will be the death of freedom in this country and they're worried about fish.
19 posted on 10/03/2007 7:39:22 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: calex59
You left out the fact the water will end up in the same place as it does when they wash the car at home, in the streams and oceans, which is what they are bitching about.

Actually, a sizeable portion of the water used to wash the car in the front yard ends up watering the lawn, while the rest goes down the storm sewer (assuming there are storm sewers in that area) and on to the river, lake, ocean, or whatever.

There's nothing uniquely wrong with this water - it just contains a portion of the airborne and road grime that will get washed down into the earth, streams, and oceans when it rains anyway.

This is probably one of those "property value" issues, like bans on outdoor clothslines and that kind of thing. We can't have the peasants looking like peasants now, can we?

20 posted on 10/03/2007 7:40:19 AM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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