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1 posted on 10/05/2007 2:24:35 PM PDT by knighthawk
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2 posted on 10/05/2007 2:25:34 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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As a consequence of their dogmatic rigidity, the Salafists argued with everyone and were unable to cooperate with others. Hardline Salafists, for instance, refused to fight alongside the Taliban because they regarded them as doctrinally unsound. Al-Suri viewed the Salafists as a threat to the unity of the jihad movement, at the very moment that Muslims were besieged by the Americans and the Jews.

Pretty much sums up the history of Islamic fractionalism....

It also suggests the means by which movement-sized groups of these folks can be disrupted.

3 posted on 10/05/2007 2:29:36 PM PDT by r9etb
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...and half-mast trousers.

Baggy-pant yutes right now in your 'hood'.

4 posted on 10/05/2007 2:33:03 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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“Salafists want a return to the lifestyle of the first few generations of Muslims.”

“Salafists communicate mainly through the Internet.”

Something wrong here.

5 posted on 10/05/2007 2:35:21 PM PDT by dighton
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If they want to live like the first few generations of Muslims they wouldn’t be using the internet.


6 posted on 10/05/2007 2:35:47 PM PDT by windcliff
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btt


9 posted on 10/05/2007 2:47:20 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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However, violent "jihadi" Salafists form only a small minority within a much larger movement

"Salafism represents a clear theological vision. Salafists want a return to the lifestyle of the first few generations of Muslims. They believe in a univocal, literal reading of the Koran

Mutually exclusive statements. The Koranus explicitly demands slavishly following its every word; and to violently destroy any who believe otherwise.

But Salafism also has its weaknesses. Its very insistence on a literal and univocal reading of the religious texts leaves little room for tolerating alternative interpretations.

And NONE for competing religions, A to Z: i.e. Buddhism, Chrisitanity, Hinduism, Judaism, .... Zoroastrianism

Takfir Salafists, Bernard Haykel explains, believe in the doctrine of takfir. This doctrine enables them to routinely brand Muslims with other views than Salafism as heretics or unbelievers.

Salafists reject the beliefs of the majority of the Muslim community. They regard Shi'ites as dangerous heretics posing as Muslims and they particularly despise Sufis, the mystics of Islam. They often refer to a tradition according to which the Prophet had said that towards the end of time, there would be 73 groups of Muslims of which only one would be "saved" and enter Paradise.

Why is there any surprise, feigned or otherwise, that this appeals to baggy-panted Muslim youth?

10 posted on 10/05/2007 2:57:52 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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As a consequence of their dogmatic rigidity, the Salafists argued with everyone and were unable to cooperate with others. Hardline Salafists, for instance, refused to fight alongside the Taliban because they regarded them as doctrinally unsound.

Sounds like the Leninists and the Troskysists (and innumerable other commie fringists and assorted wingnuts). Amazing how Satan's minions can't ever agree on anything.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 3:22:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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Salafism's simple message...

More like simple-minded.

15 posted on 10/05/2007 4:11:36 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Salafism is popular everywhere, but where it has or has had power. Ask Afghani’s about the Wahhabi’s and Arab Islamic fundamentalists. Ask the Iraqis. Ask Iranians about the Shi’ite version of Salafism. Ask the Lebanese what they think about Nasrallah and the Islamic fundamentalists. Why do they never get their voices heard in the Western Media? Well, that’s easy, they don’t sound the liberal template of anti-Americanism. Anti-communists from the Communist countries never got heard in the Liberal Media.


19 posted on 10/05/2007 6:39:48 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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FR *bookmark*


21 posted on 10/05/2007 9:27:55 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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