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Electoral Pragmatism Reconsidered
RealClearPolitics ^ | October 10, 2007 | Tony Blankley

Posted on 10/10/2007 2:26:08 PM PDT by nosofar

In my column last week, I argued for electoral pragmatism by my fellow conservatives e.g., better a Giuliani Republican than Hillary. About two-thirds of my self-identified conservative Christian e-mail respondents strongly disagreed. That response reminded me of a very shrewd observation made several years ago by Robert William Fogel: "Coalitions spawned by religious movements are more ideological than partisan."

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Elections are very specific and limited choices between different outcomes. The decision not to vote or vote for a third-party candidate with no hope of winning is itself a moral choice for the outcome such a vote will effectuate. People of conscience will have to decide whether feeling pure by voting "none of the above" is the highest ethical act or not.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bankcard; conservative; election; republican; vote

1 posted on 10/10/2007 2:26:12 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: nosofar

Excellent column. Thanks for posting it.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 2:35:00 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: nosofar
People of conscience will have to decide whether feeling pure by voting "none of the above" is the highest ethical act or not.

I've already thought that through. Offering the choice of Hillary or Rudy is in the same vein, to some, as asking the lamb whether he prefers to be eaten by the bear or the lion. In many cases, the lamb is going to head for the hills and try to escape the choice.

3 posted on 10/10/2007 2:35:09 PM PDT by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: nosofar

In the primary i will vote for someone who i think is conservative, capable and able to win. Right now that is Thompson
if he does not make it through the primary i will vote for practically any R over Hillary or practically any D.
voting third party is a vote for Hillary and i cannot stomach looking at that for at least 4 years


4 posted on 10/10/2007 2:35:19 PM PDT by DM1
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To: nosofar

related to this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/the_gop_needs_a_survival_insti.html

and this

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2007/10/018714.php

The Giuliani prospect

Rudy Giuliani possesses strenghts as a presiential candidate that rightly make him a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination. He may be the most accomplished municipal leader in American history, with a record he compiled while facing down the steady opposition of the New York Times and other malefactors. The qualities of leadership he displayed as mayor are remarkable. And he has emerged as a leading candidate because of his strength on issues of national security. He seems to be the candidate with the best chance of winning a national election on a playing field tilted toward the Democratic candidate.

Yet Mayor Giuliani’s social liberalism remains a liability with the social conservatives who have formed an essential part of the Republican coalition. Social conservative leaders such as James Dobson threaten to support a third-party candidate. In the course of two good columns — here (last week’s “The GOP needs a survival instinct”) and here (today’s “Electoral pragmatism reconsidered”), Tony Blankley has instructed conservatives in the prudential considerations that may dictate subordination of their primary political concerns to the survival of their coalition with the Republican Party. The upshot of Blankley’s teaching is this:

Every faction within the GOP coalition should agree immediately to make no further demands of their party. Just as the liberals did in 1991 and 1992, the conservatives of 2007 and 2008 simply should let their strongest candidate campaign in a way most likely to gain victory. Every conservative principle thereby would be safer than if heavy demands yield a Hillary presidency. Given the grotesque irresponsibility of the national Democrats, keeping them out of the White House should be the first calling of every patriotic conservative.

I agree with this, and it is my approach to the Republican field. I watch and wonder who would be the strongest candidate in a difficult year. I am happy to sit back and let my fellow Republicans sort out the candidates in the upcoming primaries, trusting that many Republicans share my primary concerns.

Nevertheless, the same prudential considerations in which Blankley instructs Republican voters apply to Republican candidates. If you want to lead the party to national victory, find a way to enlist the party’s core voters in your cause (without alienating the independent voters without whom victory is impossible). Mayor Giuliani seems not to have done this, preeminently on the subject of abortion. Perhaps it is not possible for him to do. But I should think that it would have been possible for him to say what is implicit in his comments on selecting judges — that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided — and that the issue of abortion should be returned to the states, where it was when the Supreme Court upset the applecart in 1973. Or perhaps Mayor Giuliani offers the formulation of his approach to selecting judges as the ground on which he can meet social conservatives halfway. I have to say that, contemplating the retirement of several Supreme Court justices during the next presidential term, it satisfies me if he means it.

I am afraid that not even this would satisfy Amherst’s Professor Hadley Arkes. Professor Arkes has been one of the leading intellectual lights in the constellation of pro-life conservatives, an architect of the legislation protecting partially born infants. In his talk on social issues and the Republican Party at the APSA/Claremont panel in Chicago over Labor Day weekend, Professor Arkes argued:

Now with Mr. Giuliani we would have the advent of a candidate whose ascension in the party would mark the end of the Republican party as the pro-life party in our politics. Over the last twenty years the pro-life movement has sought a series of measures quite modest, moving step by step, with the object of putting the right to abortion “in the course of ultimate extinction,” to borrow a phrase from Lincoln. But the object of that design, put in place by Giuliani, would be to put the pro-life movement itself in the course of ultimate extinction.
As if to confirm Professor Arkes’s observation, Mayor Giuliani’s comments on abortion posted on his Giuliani 2008 Web site, Mayor Giuliani devotes himself largely to the subject of pornography.

Professor Arkes wondered in the course of his remarks whether it would be better to lose with Romney than to win with Giuliani. Better for whom? My notes don’t reflect whether Professor Arkes specified, but it was there that he lost me. It seemed to me to be lacking in the prudence Blankley counsels in his thoughtful (if not entirely persuasive) columns.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 9:12:56 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Ingtar
Offering the choice of Hillary or Rudy is in the same vein, to some, as asking the lamb whether he prefers to be eaten by the bear or the lion. In many cases, the lamb is going to head for the hills and try to escape the choice.

Heading for the hills is not an option. You don't have the choice of remaining 'neutral'. If you have no problem with Hillary as President for 4 or 8 years; with a couple more Ruth Bader Ginsburgs as Supreme Court Justices for the next 30 years; with an explosion in entitlements programs and spending that goes on forever; then go for it. Remember that anything you decide has consequences. Just don't be dishonest about it and pretend you aren't at least partially responsible if you don't vote and Hillary is elected.

6 posted on 10/11/2007 2:28:03 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: nosofar

It is my belief that with Rudy as President, I still get a couple Ruth Bader Ginsburgs and as many entitlements added to the budget. In addition, there is no longer a party that will nominate a socially conservative candidate. More is lost that way.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 2:38:24 PM PDT by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: Ingtar
It is my belief that with Rudy as President, I still get a couple Ruth Bader Ginsburgs and as many entitlements added to the budget. In addition, there is no longer a party that will nominate a socially conservative candidate. More is lost that way.

If that is truly your belief, then it's understandable. Of course, I disagree. One of Rudy's promises is to nominate 'strict constructionists'. I doubt this will happen just for practical reasons. Democrats will kill any nomination like that now that they have both houses of Congress. But he'll still feel constrained by that promise to at least nominate no one further left than Kennedy, who is far better than Ginsburg. The Supreme Court would edge to the right. Rudy is a Republican and as such will be constrained by other Republicans whose votes he needs. He will also be keeping an eye on 2012 and won't stray too far if he wants to be reelected. Hillary allies with Democrats, naturally, and will be completely unconstrained in advancing her agenda and may in fact feel pressure to go even further in some cases by the moveon.org crowd than she might otherwise.

If no party nominates a social conservative, who's fault is that? If not enough social conservatives can get behind a candidate in the primaries to push him into the nomination, they can't expect other factions within the Republican party to do their work for them.

8 posted on 10/11/2007 3:38:32 PM PDT by nosofar
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