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If I step outside my conservatism, and to a certain extent, my faith, I am confronted with issues with which I have difficulty grappling. And at the bottom of it all is my belief that Giuliani is the only one that can defeat Hillary.

And for my conscience's sake, I could even decide that a Democrat presidency is a small price to pay to preserve my steadfast loyalty to my principles and beliefs.

But a HILLARY presidency? No. The damage to my country would be too great. In eight years, a Hillary presidency with a Democrat congress could insure that there will never be a Republican government for as long as this nation can endure.

1 posted on 10/15/2007 4:29:49 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: StatenIsland

And what kind of Republican governnment do we have now??????


2 posted on 10/15/2007 4:33:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: StatenIsland

Rooty toots will keep on trying. I guess it is all parts of NO, that they don’t understand.

I believe those who will not vote Rooty have gotten tired of arguing about it and are going to hang on to their principles.

No is No.


3 posted on 10/15/2007 4:38:49 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: StatenIsland

No, it’s not.
Rudy is right on attitude, but wrong on NEARLY EVERYTHING else.
He will do for the National GOP what ‘ol Pataki did for the GOP of New York—totally destroy the organization and leave NOTHING behind.
There are better candidates—let’s pick one.


4 posted on 10/15/2007 4:43:44 AM PDT by Flintlock (-)
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To: StatenIsland

THE PRIMARIES HAVE A PURPOSE!!!

Vote your priciples in the primaries!!!!!

IF you have to make tough choices in the General election, worry about that latter!!!!


6 posted on 10/15/2007 4:53:23 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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Months ago, I thought that regardless who the Republicans nominated, the Republican nominee would beat Hillary. With the election still over a year away, I'm not so sure. Each candidate is a compromise of strong points, negatives and weaknesses, but the most compelling thing about voting for any one of them is Hillary as President. I hope that's enough.

If elected, Hillary will probably have at least two years with a compliant Congress to advance her Soros socialist agenda. I would vote for almost anyone, even Ron Paul, to keep Hillary, Soros and all the rest of the Clinton crime family from sticking it to us.

9 posted on 10/15/2007 4:59:30 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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I’m not got to bash Rudy beyond saying “2nd Amendment, abortion, NY sanctuary city,” and would vote for him over sHrillary, but I’d prefer ANY of the other GOP candidates besides ron paul...


10 posted on 10/15/2007 5:01:49 AM PDT by piytar
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To: StatenIsland

bump


13 posted on 10/15/2007 5:06:31 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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>>>Giuliani’s pro-family/anti-abortion ideas, his socially conservative mayoral record, and his popularity among churchgoing Republicans.<<<<

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ::gasps::, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, ::snorts::, hee, hee, ha, ha, hee, ::falls on floor::


15 posted on 10/15/2007 5:09:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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And at the bottom of it all is my belief that Giuliani is the only one that can defeat Hillary.

Speaking as a former, but nearly lifelong, Connecticutian who spent a lot of time in Manhattan, Brooklyn and the Bronx, I can say with moral certainty that New Yorkers have a poor conception of what the rest of the country thinks.

This inability to understand what the other 90% of the country thinks and feels extends to Giuliani himself. Giuliani is in a poor position to exploit Hillary's weaknesses, and for every state he puts into play, he puts to other ones in danger. He would also hurt turnout in those states where we could win congressional seats back. This country does not need a tougher, more efficient, less discreet, ethnic Nelson Rockefeller.
18 posted on 10/15/2007 5:11:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, just wanted a new screen name.)
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This “Rudyphobia” ignores three key factors: Giuliani’s pro-family/anti-abortion ideas, his socially conservative mayoral record, and his popularity among churchgoing Republicans.

This "Rudiphilia" ignores three key factors: Giuliani's abortion agnosticism, his totalitarian mayoral record, and his opposition among the Republican base.

Rudy's supporters need to stop flinging "but he's good on _this_" at the opposition, and start addressing the critical issues which are consistently driving away enough of the base that he won't get elected.

Giuliani is the only one that can defeat Hillary.

Nominate Rudy, get Hillary.

Ya gotta find someone else that doesn't look like a flaming leftist to a very large part of the right wing.
Seriously, if a candidate would do well on the Democratic ticket (which Rudy would), we don't want him.

19 posted on 10/15/2007 5:12:48 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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While Giuliani accepts a woman’s right to an abortion

That line in the article is the end of the discussion.

It means that I must choose between God and Rudy.

No contest.

21 posted on 10/15/2007 5:14:34 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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I fear God more than I fear Hillary. If the Republicans choose to put a social liberal in as their candidate against Hillary and we lose, we will have deserved what we have gotten.

If they choose a social liberal as the nominee, I do not even so much as want to hear breathed the initials RINO on this forum ever again from those who support Giuliani.

We will not win anything by compromising our beliefs. In fact, we will lose everything.


22 posted on 10/15/2007 5:15:38 AM PDT by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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If you want to keep Hillary out of the White House, you’d better get behind a conservative. There’s no way in hell that the cross dressing, gun grabbing abortionist liberal Rudy Giuliani’s ever going to sit behind Ronald Reagan’s desk.


23 posted on 10/15/2007 5:20:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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“And for my conscience’s sake, I could even decide that a Democrat presidency is a small price to pay to preserve my steadfast loyalty to my principles and beliefs.”

We’re all judged in the end by what we do now. I don’t think I want to mess that up.


25 posted on 10/15/2007 5:22:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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I grow weary of this but it seems necessary.

The only difference between Rooty and Hillary is that Rooty has better legs.

26 posted on 10/15/2007 5:25:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Do you want to be right or successful!)
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“The most important ‘traditional value’ in this election is keeping the Clintons out of the White House,” says Greg Alterton, an evangelical Christian

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

"Exigent" circumstances by any other name stinks as much.

Best regards,

29 posted on 10/15/2007 5:28:52 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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Pro-gun control, pro-illegals, pro-abortion, and pro-gay. Appointed liberal judges while mayor of NYC.

Nope, nothing there for conservatives to be afraid of.

30 posted on 10/15/2007 5:29:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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As Ann Coulter said, if it's Rudy versus Hillary, who cares who wins?

...flame suit on!

31 posted on 10/15/2007 5:30:23 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Have at it, Rudy haters!


34 posted on 10/15/2007 5:37:10 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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This “Rudyphobia” ignores three key factors: Giuliani’s pro-family/anti-abortion ideas, his socially conservative mayoral record, and his popularity among churchgoing Republicans.

While Giuliani accepts a woman’s right to an abortion, he told Iowa voters on August 7:


How can Giuliani have anti abortion ideas while at the same time accept a woman's right to an abortion? Another example of Rudy's two faced lies in an attempt deceive conservatives.
36 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:14 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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