Posted on 10/15/2007 8:21:39 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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Deroy Murdock still shilling for Giuliani.
If he continues to use the NYC abortion rate lowering under Giuliani, Hillary could easily out do that propoganda by saying the country’s abortion rate went at a faster rate than NYC. Therefore implying that the Clinton’s are more “pro-life” than Giuliani.
Did Rudy do anything that caused a decrease in the number of abortions in New York City, or was he lucky enough to be there at the right time?
Was it his support for taxpayer-funding of abortion? His opposition to a ban on partial-birth infanticide? His office's commemoration of the 25th anniversary of Roe? His appearance promoting abortion rights before a gathering of NARAL?
Did Giuliani really push for adoption as mayor of New York? Un, no, he didn't:
If Giuliani had an aggressive plan to reduce abortions in New York City -- long considered the abortion capital of America because it has more abortions than most states -- Fordham University political science professor Bruce Berg has never seen it. That's surprising considering Berg has DVD copies of every mayoral news conference in the city dating back to 1996. "They don't exist," berg told the St. Petersburg Times of potential news conferences showing former Mayor Giuliani touting adoption over abortion.
This COLUMN is idiotic and insult to any thinking person's intelligence.
***1976 Hyde Amendment prohibits nearly all federal abortion spending, no equivalent federal datum exists.) So, apparently scorn is the appropriate reaction to a nearly one-quarter cut in taxpayer-funded abortions.***
Okay. How about this question for Giuliani. If the Dems decide to forward a bill to repeal the Hyde Amendement would he sign it or veto it? Giuliani avoids this question in the same matter that he avoided the Vietnam Draft.
Remember, he has to play ball with the Senate on justices. If the Senate is Republican with Conservative leaders then we will have more Roberts and Alitos than Souters and O’Conners.
I won’t vote for him, but I like Rudy personally. He is the most articulate Republican and not afraid to fight. A lost art amongst our leaders.
Pray for W and Our Troops
If that isn't the definition of cognitive dissonance...
The numbers of abortions, whether statistically increased or decreased, in NYC under Guliani, are irrelevant. As president, Guiliani would have an entirely different role in the battle against abortion, a role, mind you, that would directly call into play his pro-choice stance. Namely, his nomination of SC Justice(s). As Mayor he didn't nominate SC justices; as president he would.
It's a pretty big "duh", Mr. Murdock. But I'll repeat it again for clarity: The role Guiliani played as mayor is NOT the same as one he would as president, vis a vis the abortion battle.
The bottom line is that the battle over abortion will be won or lost based on whether the next President appoints conservative Supreme Court Justices. I’m not betting that Hillary will not do so.
Abortion numbers went down NATIONWIDE in the 1990s, so this has NOTHING to do with Rooty Toot.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
Doesn’t matter what happened, Rudy is still for abortions. What a crazy article.
You’re starting to see more of this “shilling.” It looks like the GOP pundits are beginning to realize that it’s Rudy or Romney, and they are choosing Rudy. If Rudy steals NH from Romney, that’s going to set off a flood of endorsements for Rudy, I predict. And if Rudy then wins in Florida, that will pretty much decide the nomination.
The problem here is that Deroy’s logic works against him. During the Clinton years, Abortions went down in America. There is not one credible Pro-Lifer who would then credit Bill Clinton for presiding over that decrease. Niether do we credit NARAL’s “Champion of Choice,” Rudy911, for presiding over an Abortion rate decrease while holding the same radical Pro-Abortion positions (in some cases, even more radical).
Yet Deroy is persistent in trying to prove that correlation proves causation in regards to Rudy911. IOW - because there were more sunny days during Rudy911’s tenure as Mayor, we must deduce that he somehow deserves credit for the increase in the number of sunny days. Now how could a sun-tanner object to him based on his constant push for a Monty-Burns-Like sun-shield over NYC, when clearly the numbers show that NY had more sunny days under Rudy911? How could they possibly doubt that as President, Rudy911 would bring more sunny days to all of America, like he did to NY?
The fatal flaw is that by Deroy’s own measure - reduction in the Abortion rate - the Clintons deserve credit from the Right-To-Life movement, and no Pro-Life voter should withhold their vote from Hillary based on her unabashed Pro-Choice stance.
Every possible defense of Rudy on Abortion falls flat with even the most parochial look at the logic that the con-man making the defense tries to use.
Oral Sex went up in the 90’s, too, remember?
So did birth control
And the numbers of teenagers in the cencus went down in that period, too, so there would have been less kids out there fooling around, too.
No amount of howling about Hillary, or bogus attempts to terrorize us into supporting a candidate we find an anathema (Rudy911), will make us suddenly want a GOP and country run by Rudy911.
And in case you have not noticed, most Freepers are far to saavy to buy into the idea that Rudy will give us Conservative justices, against all of his history and expressed worldview. I would no more expect President Ron Paul to declare war on Iran than to expect that Rudy911 would give us a Conservative Justice.
That assumes that Rudy would prefer a Roberts or an Alito over a Souter and an O'Connor, and I don't see how you can possibly make that argument given his stances on social issues, and given his long history of appointing liberal judges.
Rudy is himself just another Sandra Day O'Connor... in a dress.
I won’t gamble on Rudy911. I’ll gamble on 2012.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life always.
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