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Suit targets state immigration law (Oklahoma)
Tulsa World ^ | 10/16/2007 | Althea Peterson

Posted on 10/16/2007 6:30:43 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy filed a federal lawsuit Monday against Gov. Brad Henry and Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson, seeking to overturn House Bill 1804, a strict new state law against illegal immigration.

The suit alleges that the law is unconstitutional and violates rights to due process for undocumented immigrants, who are listed as "John Doe" or "Jane Doe" in the list of plaintiffs.

"The leaders and people behind House Bill 1804 are guilty of ethnic cleansing," said the coalition's president, the Rev. Miguel Rivera, at a press conference outside the federal court building.

The Rev. Victor Orta II, the president of the American Dream Coalition, said the suit was no reason for celebration.

"It is a sad day for our state," said Orta, a Tulsan. "Upon celebrating our centennial, we have to present a lawsuit on an issue like this.

"It is a bad law when children born in America are at home this morning from school because they're afraid."

The suit comes as no surprise to HB 1804's co-authors, Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore, and Sen. Jim Williamson, R-Tulsa.

The bill is constitutional and will stand, both said.

Terrill said the lawsuit's allegations were "so absurd, outlandish and preposterous and almost laughable if they weren't so despicable."

"I am not worried in the least."

Paul Sund, a spokesman for Henry, declined to comment until state lawyers can review the suit.

Rivera said the suit named Edmondson as a defendant because he hasn't acted on requests to consider the law's constitutionality through an attorney general's opinion.

Charlie Price, a spokesman for Edmondson's office, said several requests had been made for opinions on the law.

He said initial responses were sent to five representatives mentioned in the lawsuit. The responses said that the Attorney General's Office needed more time to review their requests.

Rivera said time is of the essence for illegal immigrants concerned about the law, which is to go into effect Nov. 1.

The local attorney for Rivera's coalition, Rohit Sharma, said a request for an injunction to stop the law from taking effect on that date would be filed Tuesday.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; oklahoma; statelaw
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The whining about Oklahoma's attempt to get tough about illegal immigration is reaching a crescendo peak.

Unless things change, it is estimated that within 10-15 years, up to half of the students in Tulsa public schools will be Hispanic, primarily illegal.

1 posted on 10/16/2007 6:30:46 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: JustaCowgirl
Unless things change, it is estimated that within 10-15 years, up to half of the students in Tulsa public schools will be Hispanic, primarily illegal.

Not just in Tulsa...everywhere!

2 posted on 10/16/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: JustaCowgirl
It seems the latinos are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing. I hear tell that some California towns are no longer white and you have to speak spanish to get anything.
3 posted on 10/16/2007 6:42:41 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Just sub Mexicans, & their Bund, for Muslims: same/same.

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. “If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you”, he said on National Television
“I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option”, Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear off. Basically people who don’t want to be Australians, and who don’t want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off”, he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques. Quote: “IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.”
“However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the ‘politically correct’ crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia .” “However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.” “This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.”
“This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom”
“We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!”
“Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.”
“We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.”
“If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don’t like “A Fair Go”, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
“This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.”
“If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.”

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.


4 posted on 10/16/2007 6:43:56 AM PDT by tumblindice (John Howard for president, 2008)
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To: JustaCowgirl

When Democrats realize they are trading their culture so a bunch of politicians can keep their seats this crap will stop.


5 posted on 10/16/2007 6:50:53 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Illegals only have a right to a ride back to the border.


6 posted on 10/16/2007 6:53:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

The trick is to pass laws like this in as many jurisdictions as possible.

I wonder how many of these fights the ACLU/”immigrant’s” rights people can actually sustain simultaneously.


7 posted on 10/16/2007 6:55:31 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: ontap
When Democrats realize they are trading their culture so a bunch of politicians can keep their seats this crap will stop.

That will never happen. The demonrats own defeat and support the invasion, as do some rinos. The only way to remove these traitors, at this time, is to vote them out. When the situation is worse, say five years down the road, there may be a whole bunch of people tired of voting and then it will be anyone's guess, as to how the situation will be handled.

8 posted on 10/16/2007 6:57:50 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: mountainlyons
latinos are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing

Typical lib tactic....accuse the opposition of what you yourself are guilty of.

9 posted on 10/16/2007 7:08:32 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: sinanju

Being that the aclu receives tax dollars from Americans to operate, I would say the aclu can handle all the cases, one throws at them. The aclu will simply ask for, and receive, a raise from our beloved congressional reps in D.C....don’t believe me?......just watch and see. Congressional reps love shoving this thing (treason) down the throats of law-abiding Americans.


10 posted on 10/16/2007 7:10:15 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

“The leaders and people behind House Bill 1804 are guilty of ethnic cleansing,” said the coalition’s president, the Rev. Miguel Rivera, at a press conference outside the federal court building.”

That is just bs...or el toro crappo....


11 posted on 10/16/2007 7:13:41 AM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Go home, illegals. That is not unreasonable to ask.


12 posted on 10/16/2007 7:13:41 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: sinanju
The trick is to pass laws like this in as many jurisdictions as possible.

Agreed. The strategery should be to pass these laws in so many places, it would be difficult to challenge them all.

13 posted on 10/16/2007 7:14:52 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: tumblindice

Those who immigrate here and want to radically change America-— CLEAR OFF!!


14 posted on 10/16/2007 7:17:52 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant — one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: tumblindice

The Australians get it.


15 posted on 10/16/2007 7:21:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: JustaCowgirl
The suit comes as no surprise to HB 1804's co-authors, Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore, and Sen. Jim Williamson, R-Tulsa. "The bill is constitutional and will stand, both said." Terrill said the lawsuit's allegations were "so absurd, outlandish and preposterous and almost laughable if they weren't so despicable. I am not worried in the least."

Have they seen what passes for judges these days?

16 posted on 10/16/2007 7:30:55 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: sinanju
The trick is to pass laws like this in as many jurisdictions as possible. I wonder how many of these fights the ACLU/”immigrant’s” rights people can actually sustain simultaneously.

You make an excellent point. Use their tactics against them.

17 posted on 10/16/2007 7:49:44 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: JustaCowgirl

Um, would the law also apply to an illegal from Canada? Ireland? Russia? Yes? Then it’s not ethnic cleansing as these racist latino clergymen assert.


18 posted on 10/16/2007 7:56:28 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A ride back to the border isn’t good enough. Aside from the money lost to the coyote, there’s no disincentive to try again. I’m thinking more like a year in jail with the bill for housing the guy sent to the Mexican government.


19 posted on 10/16/2007 7:58:03 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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ping


20 posted on 10/16/2007 9:37:50 AM PDT by gubamyster
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