>> Hey Joe, you have a $200 million ballclub out there and you haven’t sniffed the World Series for 7 years. Your previous contract’s $7 million annual salary has been better than double what ANY other manager is baseball is getting,
Torre has done the best he could’ve done with the hand he was dealt. Brian Cashman, not Torre, is responsible for acquisitions ... and he’s done a poor job constructing at $200M team.
The Yankees have spent $200M on overpriced hitters and has-been pitching. They have no young talent ... but, instead, are overpaying players who were good 4 or 5 years ago (usually for other teams).
The Yankees have an ultimately flawed method of building a team, and responsibility was pushed on Joe Torre to take this flawed team all the way.
Baseball is about fundamentals, pitching, and youth. The Yankees system of overpaying for players who are past their prime simply won’t work ... and Torre’s not to blame.
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The Yankees have spent $200M on overpriced hitters and has-been pitching. They have no young talent ... but, instead, are overpaying players who were good 4 or 5 years ago (usually for other teams).
You must not follow the NYY much...you are spouting about things that Cashman has begun to change over the past 2 years and looking toward the future.
No young talent?
Robinson Cano, 2B
Melky Cabrera, CF
Joba Chamberlain, P
Phil Hughes, P
Ian Kennedy, P
Chien Ming Wang, P
Are already on the roster.
Here are some more names you are going to see over the next two years:
Humberto Sanchez, P
Alan Horne, P
JB Cox, P
Russ Ohlendorf, P
Dellin Betances, P
Jose Tabata, OF
Ask any major league scout...the NYY have arguably the DEEPEST crop of minor league pitching talent in MLB. If the NYY let Cashman stay so the plan is not aborted, the NYY are going to be in great shape....one thing you were correct about is that pitching is KING, and the hardest to obtain.
The notable difference between now and then is that this Yankee team at least made the playoffs every year.
You are mostly right, except that right now they have completely restocked the farm system in the past few years...making many less trades for big names in exchange for the future. Two home grown players in the field this year played a big role with the team - Cano and Cabrera. Two rookie pitchers were brought up too - Joba Chamberlain and Philip Hughes. Another young pitcher came up and those three are expected to be big time in the next couple years. The Yankees essentially have been rebuilding at the same time as competing. A difficult balance, although less difficult when spending that much $$ each year. Unfortunately, these days, pitching is at such a premium in the majors that their rotation is too old, and they would have had to sacrifice a lot of their youngsters to go out and fix it.
The Mariners are officially the Major League Farm Club (finding the good young players and letting them walk away early on).
It appears the Yankees are now MLB's Retirement Center...
Torre was a driving force behind the acquisition of ‘overpriced hitters and has-been pitching’. If I had a buck for every time the phrase ‘Joe’s not comfortable with rookies’ appeared in the New York media, I could have turned down a five mil contract.
Look at what happened to almost every pitcher in the system that came up to the show. One bad outing? Straight back to triple or double ‘A’. Or sit on the bench ‘til the rust builds up a little, then pitch, then go down. Or be part of a trade.
Position player? If where you played was a position occupied by one of ‘Joe’s guys’, one the bench for a few weeks to throw you off, then a clutch appearance or two, then we throw you out. Check the way Joe used the back up catching slot to try to get some of his old homies on the team. Check the way he screwed Kenny Lofton so he could keep Bernie in the outfield.
The only reason Wang, Cabrera and Cano got to play was injuries and a dearth of ‘veterans’ for Joe to send Cashman after. Billy the Kid was good for three games a year [at least] on his managerial skills alone. I put Joe at about a minus five.