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yahoo finance ^ | Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 12:00AM | Anya Kamenetz

Posted on 10/24/2007 8:00:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Pop quiz: What exactly is the problem with credit cards?

1. The aggressive, misleading marketing: "You are pre-approved" letters for your dog.

2. The fine print: Fees, penalties, and high interest rates.

3. It's the debt, stupid!: Credit cards let you buy stuff you can't afford with money you don't have. They make you poorer in the long run, plain and simple.

Personally, I choose 4. All of the above.

Debt, Good and (Mostly) Bad

I have a massive distrust of my credit cards. One I barely touch and keep only for emergencies, and the other I pay off every month.

Yes, there are sane uses for credit: for convenience, to separate business and personal expenses, to get membership rewards, and to build a good credit rating by making on-time payments. However, you can get these benefits with none of the drawbacks by paying off the card in full each and every month, and I think most people should make it a goal to get as close to that mark as possible.

In very limited circumstances, people might reasonably use credit to invest in their own business. They're obviously taking a risk, but at least it's a risk with a possible reward. Getting into debt to buy depreciating consumer goods is a risk with no upside.

Let Us Prey

But the reality is, more and more members of Generation Debt have credit cards, and they're getting into debt sooner. Over 90 percent of college seniors already have at least one card, and 71 percent of young adults carry a balance compared to 55 percent of older folks. One study in 2001 found that the 25- to 34-year-olds who did have credit card debt owed over $4,000.

Part of the reason so many people are getting into trouble has to do with deliberate industry attempts to make young people into long-term credit customers. Last week, the U.S. Public Interest Research Groups (PIRGs) announced a campaign to deal with problems No. 1 and 2 in my quiz: the misleading marketing and unfair consumer practices that they say credit card companies engage in on campuses. (Check out the campaign here.)

When our parents attended college, and even into the 1980s, a student needed a cosigner to get a credit card. Today, a 22-year-old college student with no credit history can get loads of credit easier than a 22-year-old with a steady job and no credit history. The 10 big credit card issuers want loyalty, and they've found that broke students make good customers. Campuses are swarmed with marketers who set up tables on campus and offer food, T-shirts, and other freebies in exchange for filling out an application.

A Captive Audience

Some colleges have banned these marketers, while others cooperate with them. As reported by the Des Moines Register, for example, the University of Iowa and Iowa State University alumni associations have long-term-affiliation contracts with Bank of America to market their credit cards. The agreement guarantees the company access to personal information about University of Iowa students and parents, as well as access to campus facilities.

These affiliation deals can cover everything from on-campus ATMs to bookstore tie-ins to membership rewards. Bank of America markets special Hawkeye credit cards and gives their best customers the chance to have lunch with the Iowa football team. Through these kinds of deals, colleges are basically selling out their students as captive audiences for a few million dollars.

The Student PIRGs have 40 chapters on campuses nationwide that are going to engage in counter-marketing to raise awareness of the dangers of easy credit. They'll set up tables of their own on the quads and give away information and "don't be a sucker" lollipops. They'll also be pushing college administrators to accept a set of principles banning aggressive credit card marketing, including affiliation agreements like the one at Iowa, stunts like free pizza, and using the lacrosse team as their sales force.

Worst Practices

The PIRGs aren't stopping there. Ed Mierzwinski, the Consumer Program Director of the U.S. PIRGs, says, "We think colleges can be catalysts and put pressure on the companies to change their practices more broadly." They want to discourage the punitive terms and fees that are lurking in the fine print:

• Credit card issuers can change your interest rates at any time for any reason, including if you underpay by $1 or pay late by one day. Your introductory 0 percent rate may morph into 29 percent overnight.

• Sixty percent of users pay at least one late fee, penalty, or over-limit fee each year, averaging $35. To make sure you do foul up, some cards have rules that the payments must be delivered by 11 a.m. the day they're due.

• Universal default, aka "risk-based re-pricing." Even if you do everything else right, your interest rate could skyrocket if you try to get more credit by making a credit inquiry or opening a new card.

(For more on these practices, see this hilarious Web cartoon produced by Americans for Fairness in Lending.)

No Way to Start a Financial Life

Speaking as part of the PIRGs' campaign, Rachel Wikoff, a 2007 graduate from the University of California at Davis, told her story at a telephone news conference earlier this month.

She had a credit card for about a year, and had set up automatic payments through her bank account, paying a little over the $10 minimum. Then, one month, without her noticing, her payment was suddenly calculated differently, so the automatic transfer fell short. "The morning of my twenty-first birthday, I got a call that I had missed a payment. I had over-the-limit fees, late fees, my interest rate spiked from 11 percent to 29 percent, and my minimum payment went from $10 to $89. I couldn't afford it -- I had to take out another student loan. And it ruined my credit."

Everyone has some degree of choice about whether to get into debt, of course. At the same time, most people are going to make a mistake sooner or later with bill paying, especially as rookies. "People consistently underestimate the probability that they're going to get into financial trouble," says professor Robert Lawless, a credit expert at the University of Illinois who contributes to the Credit Slips blog. "They tell themselves that they're going to just build a credit history, but the card gets used in very inappropriate ways. The credit card industry knows this." When you trip up, they'll be there to profit from your fall.

Do you really want a financial relationship with a company that reserves the right to nearly triple your interest rate and piles on fees and penalties for the slightest infraction? Is that the way to start a solid financial life?

Admirable Efforts

I don't know if the PIRGs campaign on its own will persuade credit card companies to change their ways and offer cards with fair terms and wide-open policies. Dr. Lawless says there's hope: "The credit industry often responds to perceived regulatory threats."

Like a bill currently in Congress, for instance. The Student Credit Card Protection Act would reinstate the requirement that parents or guardians must be cosigners on any student credit card with a limit over $500 for full-time college students under 21. It would also require that the creditor get proof of income and credit history before issuing a card.

In the meantime, I applaud the PIRGs' work in trying to bring accountability to colleges, especially for raising financial literacy among their students. The word needs to be spread: Credit cards aren't fair, they aren't fun, and they aren't your friend.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bankcard; bankcards; credit; creditcards; debt
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1 posted on 10/24/2007 8:00:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
3. It's the debt, stupid!

It's the stupid debtor.

There, fixed it.

2 posted on 10/24/2007 8:01:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: BenLurkin
"The morning of my twenty-first birthday, I got a call that I had missed a payment. I had over-the-limit fees, late fees, my interest rate spiked from 11 percent to 29 percent, and my minimum payment went from $10 to $89. I couldn't afford it -- I had to take out another student loan. And it ruined my credit."

I want a refund of everything I paid for her education.

3 posted on 10/24/2007 8:05:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: BenLurkin

I never buy anthing I cant afford.


4 posted on 10/24/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: ßuddaßudd
I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

5 posted on 10/24/2007 8:12:10 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I want a refund of everything I paid for her education.

Why? She was more prudent than most customers, by setting up automatic payments to protect herself.

As usual, the companies just capriciously rewrote all agreements to their benefit, as usual.

One must read every four-point "aboveforementioned notwithstanding, Company reserves the right to.." 8-1/2"X14 page they get AND check the account every week in full paranoia mode to prevent these things.

She did more to protect herself than most consumers do. Most just sit there in a coma, buy more and more, and do not even know what rate they are paying, or how they are going to end the death spiral.

6 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan; RockinRight; NVDave; Neidermeyer; Travis McGee; sbMKE; ..

Economy/Credit/Mortgage issues ping list

Let me know if you want on or off this list.


7 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:43 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: BenLurkin

Like anything else in life, they’re a tool that can be used very effectively by responsible people, not so by less responsible people.


8 posted on 10/24/2007 8:18:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: BenLurkin
The paradox of the American economy today is that the best advice for every individual American (getting out of debt and living within - or beneath - one's means) creates catastrophe for the economy as a whole, which is heavily dependent on Americans taking on more and more debt to buy more and more Chinese crap and other bling bling.

It's not good for the USA that the Depression is no longer in our national memory.

9 posted on 10/24/2007 8:19:26 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("If it ain't broken, fix it 'till it is" - Congress)
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To: BenLurkin

It is so easy to drift into debt. I didn’t get my first card till I was 29 and a grad student. I was paying it off every month and then I needed some major dental work. I put it on the card and that was the beginning of the end for me. I just gradually sank and didn’t put up much of a fight. I’d been poor for so many years it just felt so good to be able to buy things. Now, of course, I’m sorry I wasn’t more careful. But... you live and learn, I guess.


10 posted on 10/24/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: BenLurkin
3. It's the debt, stupid!: Credit cards let you buy stuff you can't afford with money you don't have. They make you poorer in the long run, plain and simple.

Bull.

While true for idiot who just have to have something that 1) they don't need and 2) can't afford, its not the credit cards fault.

Credit Cards are a powerful tool when used properly. Online purchases allow one to save great amounts of money on a wide variety of purchases. But 99 out of 100 of the sellers require payment by credit card.

Credit Cards also offer you additional purchase protection that Cash doesn't. And many cards will double the manufacturers warranty for some major purchases.

Credit Cards are not the problem. Financial idiots are the problem.

11 posted on 10/24/2007 8:26:54 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Hey, at least you went into debt for a much needed expense.

Now had you charged your credit cards to buy a plasma TV, then....


12 posted on 10/24/2007 8:27:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well at least they can’t repo the smile! I have plenty of friends in Grad School with some very nice plasma Tv’s and while it is awesome to go over to their place to play games or watch movies I can’t help but wonder then the other shoe is gonna drop. “I’ll just get another card to pay off this one!”


13 posted on 10/24/2007 8:28:54 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL... no, no plasma TV. Nothing like that. But you know women, we won’t pay $2000 for any one thing, but we’ll buy 200 things that were “only” 10 bucks each, so... eventually we end up in the same stupid trap.


14 posted on 10/24/2007 8:37:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Phantom Lord

“Financial idiots are the problem.”

Many people are NOT idiots, they are ignorant!

We need to focus at least some high school education time on personal finances. There are a lot of kids graduating that simply don’t understand even simple financial things and really don’t understand credit and interest rates at all.

They are very likely to get in trouble when they get credit cards.

This is as fundamental a need as the three R’s in todays society.


15 posted on 10/24/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Izzy Dunne; ßuddaßudd
I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

If I may, I'd like to chip in and purchase him an apostrophe. ;->

16 posted on 10/24/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Larry Lucido
The morning of my twenty-first birthday, I got a call that I had missed a payment. I had over-the-limit fees, late fees, my interest rate spiked from 11 percent to 29 percent, and my minimum payment went from $10 to $89.

Over-the-limit fees and late fees aren't the same thing. She's not telling the whole story.

17 posted on 10/24/2007 8:42:39 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: BenLurkin

Those “pre-approved offers” are simply Instant Ident-A-Theft Kits[tm] produced for use against you. That being the case, the companies that generate them should be on the hook for resulting identity thefts, for the same reason someone who breaks your front door (but doesn’t go in) should be on the hook for damages if a burglar later takes advantage of the opportunity.


18 posted on 10/24/2007 8:46:56 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
>>I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

I'll kick in for an apostrophe. I'm not a grammar Nazi, but I can't resist an easy shot.

19 posted on 10/24/2007 8:47:05 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: A_perfect_lady

Remember....

A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs. A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn’t need but it’s on sale.


20 posted on 10/24/2007 8:48:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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