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Victory in Iraq
The Washington Times ^ | November 14, 2007 | Tony Blankley

Posted on 11/14/2007 2:25:15 PM PST by Aristotelian

It has become obligatory for both pro- and antiwar commentators to never mention the possibility of victory in Iraq. The most that antiwar people will admit is that the surge has gained a temporary military advantage in a war that cannot be won militarily. The most pro-war commentators will claim is that they see the possibility of "success" perhaps, maybe, someday, somehow.

But as of Veterans Day 2007, I think one can claim a very real expectation that next year the world may see a genuine, old-fashioned victory in the Iraq War. In five years we will have overturned Saddam's government, killed, captured or driven out of country almost all al Qaeda terrorists, suppressed the violent Shi'ite militias and induced the Sunni tribal leaders and their people to shun resistance and send their sons into the army and police and seek peaceful resolution of disputes. And we will have stood up a multisectarian, tribally inclusive army capable of maintaining the peace that our troops established. . . .

All of this is the result of the most underreported successful military operation since the invention of the telegraph. . . . We are creating representative governance from the bottom up — not from the Green Zone down. Despite a frail and inept national government, the people in the towns and provinces (under the tutelage of the U.S. military) seem to be forming order out of the chaos.

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I think one can claim a very real expectation that next year the world may see a genuine, old-fashioned victory in the Iraq War.

Americans love nothing better than a winner. As quickly as the public turned against the war, they may come to take pride in the freeing of Iraq and the creation of a democracy in the heart of the Middle East, capable of challenging and defeating the forces of Islamofacism.

1 posted on 11/14/2007 2:25:15 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
We should and can take pride in it. The Democrats see America only as a loser. We see her as a winner!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/14/2007 2:28:26 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Aristotelian

We are also great bandwagon fans...and love to adopt the once forgotten loser.

Detroit Lions..for example.


3 posted on 11/14/2007 2:29:39 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Aristotelian

I hope you are right there, but there are powerful forces that want to do anything except acknowledge US victory. The Democrats and their MSM allies want US defeat and would rather eat hot coals than admit the US policy has succeeded.


4 posted on 11/14/2007 2:30:47 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Aristotelian
Great article -- Iraq is indeed the most underreported successful military operation since the invention of the telegraph and when the idiots at ABC call Afghanistan the "Forgotten War" they are too stupid to realize that they are admitting that are forgetting what the majority of Americans are not -- we are at War.
5 posted on 11/14/2007 2:32:36 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Dead Dog

I gather that a substantial number of voters make their choice at the last moment, based on who is most likely to win. The reason: They want to be associated with a winner; party, politics and policies don’t matter. It’s water cooler pride. “I picked the winner.”


6 posted on 11/14/2007 2:33:17 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: StarCMC
Yeah, the only reason the war is “forgotten” is because the media stopped covering it.
7 posted on 11/14/2007 2:35:35 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
All of this is the result of the most underreported successful military operation since the invention of the telegraph. But the point to take away from the surge is that, though a brilliant military operation, it was never just a military operation. Rather it developed a political, economic and communications infrastructure that is permitting local-level reconciliation. We are creating representative governance from the bottom up — not from the Green Zone down. Despite a frail and inept national government, the people in the towns and provinces (under the tutelage of the U.S. military) seem to be forming order out of the chaos.

These are the keys to VICTORY, a VICTORY that draws closer every day.

8 posted on 11/14/2007 2:35:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Aristotelian; elhombrelibre

VICTORY :)


9 posted on 11/14/2007 2:37:38 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: smoothsailing

We could see a sea change in public opinion on Iraq. Who knows, people might even have more respect for Bush.


10 posted on 11/14/2007 2:37:43 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

Kill a jihadist a day and they’ll eventually go away....


11 posted on 11/14/2007 2:38:22 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: All

It all comes down to funding. We need 6 more months to 1 more year of full funding for the effort, and victory will be in hand. It will include permanent US military bases in Iraq, at the request of the Iraqi government.

It will also include devastation of the Democratic Party.

But that funding is not yet in hand. They are smelling the reality that they are funding victory. They hate this reality and what it is going to mean. They will talk among themselves and find a way to persuade themselves that forcing US defeat is best for the US because it keeps them in power.

Victory requires funding. The GOP must ATTACK. There must be an end to waiting for “the Democrat Iraq funding strategy”. The attack must be pointed directly at the faux conservative Democrats occupying Republican seats. Make speeches on the floor of the House, get coverage for them, and NAME THOSE CONGRESSMEN BY NAME and call upon them to support victory. Begin anew labeling Democrat bills “surrender verbage”.

The funding battle is critical. We must have full funding for victory. They know it and hate what it will mean. The only way to force them into it is a direct attack on their faux conservatives.


12 posted on 11/14/2007 2:40:36 PM PST by Owen
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None of the Pubbies have the balls to ask the Democrat leadership why they are afraid of a free and open Iraq.

I have my suspicions, but I think Lee Harvey Oswald had help too.

13 posted on 11/14/2007 2:45:58 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Aristotelian

Dems. are going to have to re-double their efforts at emboldening the enemy.


14 posted on 11/14/2007 2:48:45 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: Owen

Compliments on a really brilliant post. The Dems. are going to go through every contortion imaginable to deny funding and to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The GOP has to go on the offensive here and call them on it. Time for some hardball.


15 posted on 11/14/2007 2:50:57 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: Aristotelian
“The most pro-war commentators ...”

These labels don’t seem right to me.

I don’t consider myself “pro-war”; but, I’m enough of a realist to know that war is sometimes necessary.

I’m pro-western civilization. If that could be preserved without war, I’d be ecstatic.

When it’s necessary for good men to do something, to keep evil from prevailing — then I’m pro-victory. That’s where I’m at regarding Iraq — a necessary war that I want the good guys (U.S. and coalition forces) to win.

16 posted on 11/14/2007 2:52:55 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Aristotelian
The new press spin will be that the Iraqi’s “saved themselves”

Like most things, it will be partly true, but will omit the dedication and bravery of our troops in the field, as well as deft maneuvering by the administration behind the scenes (i.e. with Iran).

17 posted on 11/14/2007 3:20:45 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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The new press spin will be that the Iraqi’s “saved themselves”

Can't be there was an Iraqi Civil War predicted by the MSM
18 posted on 11/14/2007 4:06:14 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary; Owen

I concur with Hillary41Penitentiary...your post is absolutely on target and brilliant.
The Democrats as a party have adopted the Clinton M.O. - anything that keeps us in power. And that includes traitorous statements and activities.


19 posted on 11/14/2007 4:44:16 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
The Democrats as a party have adopted the Clinton M.O.

The Dems adopted that many moons ago

Dem controlled congress under Hoover refused to pass programs similar to those that FDR later implemented in order to win the Presidency (public was as uniformed b then as it is now and blamed Hoover for every thing )
20 posted on 11/14/2007 4:50:47 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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