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Airbus to build stretched A380-900 (900 PAX!)
Süddeutsche Zeitung ^ | 2007-11-16 | Jens Flottau

Posted on 11/17/2007 12:26:11 AM PST by avid

Der Flugzeughersteller Airbus hält an Plänen für eine noch größere Version des A380 fest. Mit der Entwicklung eines solchen Flugzeuges werde das Unternehmen voraussichtlich aber erst dann beginnen, wenn die Produktion des aktuellen Modelles A380-800 auf 40 Flugzeuge pro Jahr hochgefahren ist, so Verkaufschef John Leahy. Dieses Ziel strebt Airbus für das Jahr 2010 an.

Der A380-900 hätte in einer normalen Auslegung Platz für rund 650 Passagiere. Würde man das Flugzeug nur mit Economy-Sitzen ausstatten, würden sogar rund 900 Passagiere mitfliegen können. Der größte A380-Kunde, die Dubaier Fluggesellschaft Emirates, hat schon seit längerem großes Interesse an dem Flugzeug. (...)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: a380; a380900; aerospace; airbus; sizedoesmatter; worlddominance
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Sorry that article is in German. They will build a passenger- and a freight-version. Delivery of both is planned for 2015.
1 posted on 11/17/2007 12:26:12 AM PST by avid
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To: avid

Boy are those euros ever dumb ! The normal A380 is already a dismal failure, and now they want to build a bigger white elephant !

Of course it doesn’t matter since this is a socialist state project where profit matters not at all. All that matters to them is that they destroy Boeing and American jobs.


2 posted on 11/17/2007 12:57:06 AM PST by Axlrose
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To: avid

Gott in Himmel! Was is das?


3 posted on 11/17/2007 2:51:52 AM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: avid

The giant bird becomes still larger

It will give an extended version of the airbus to A380 - however only in two years is to be begun with planning. In a A380-900 would have then between 650 and 900 persons place.
Of Jens Flottau

The airplane manufacturer airbus holds to plans for a still larger version of the A380 . With the development of such an airplane the enterprise will begin presumably however only then, if the production of the current model A380-800 raised to 40 airplanes per year, so sales boss John Leahy. This goal aims at airbus for the year 2010.

The A380-900 would have place for approximately 650 passengers in a normal interpretation. If one would equip the airplane only with Economy seats, even approximately 900 passengers could along-fly. The largest A380customer, the Dubaier airline of emirate, has already since longer large interest in the airplane. If it would be already available, two thirds of the current orders would be allotted to the longer version. Emirate is with 58 machines the A380 largest with distancecustomer.

According to Leahy the A380-900 would be delivered for the first time about at the same time with the freight version around the year 2015. Airbus reset the freighter for the time being, because with UPS and FedEx the two only customers for the airplane had jumped off.

Airbus is among other things because of the low dollar rate and the two-year delay of the A380 in an economically difficult situation and can additional development costs for the time being hardly afford.

Before the larger A380 is built, only the A350XWB stands on the list, with the airbus against the successful Boeing 787 to begin wants. In addition urge some airlines on a successor for the short and medium range jet A320.


4 posted on 11/17/2007 3:07:50 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: avid

There are articles in English about this. Like this one;

Airbus Supersizes The Superjumbo
Development To Begin On A380-900 In 2010

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=71e77d0f-6740-4179-a8a2-e7f3b59938be


5 posted on 11/17/2007 3:08:39 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: bill1952

Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! ... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.


6 posted on 11/17/2007 3:37:09 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: avid

over 90% of the Global commerce travels by sea. Is is cheeper to travel by a380 or cargo container on ship?


7 posted on 11/17/2007 4:02:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Axlrose
The normal A380 is already a dismal failure

Failure on a lot of fronts. I recall reading somewhere that the A380 is so heavy it is restricted to only certain airports because many if not most runways at major hubs can't handle the weight. Now, they want to build a bigger, heavier version? Dumb de dumb, dumb, dumb......but hey, it's only Euroweenie tax money they're spending, right?

8 posted on 11/17/2007 4:13:54 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: avid

9 posted on 11/17/2007 4:16:07 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Thermalseeker

This tracks with their models concept of bigger is all.

Only the cargo version has potential for long term success but this will kill jobs for the passenger version. Thus to “make jobs” they make a version with cargo and passengers.

Actually it is similar to the steam ships of the 1900’s.

After all teh Titanic was a cargo and passenger ship. Just an observation as to the type of transport of the era, not a comment on the result of that ship.


10 posted on 11/17/2007 4:27:08 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
LOL! That actually had me going for a second until I realized the Monty connection. :)
11 posted on 11/17/2007 4:28:20 AM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: pax_et_bonum
Airbus to build stretched A380-900 (900 PAX!)

I'm sorry, but 900 Pax are just 'WAY too many.

12 posted on 11/17/2007 4:30:12 AM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: avid

Good!!! American Aviation will rule completely! Europe is almost as bad at planes as they are at space.

LLS


13 posted on 11/17/2007 4:40:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Thermalseeker

Airbus is counting on market pressure from airlines that have purchased the A380 — airlines in regions that are both booming in a huge way — to elicit wider adoption over a long period of time. A stretched A380 may actually make more sense given that the plane is so large now that it requires extraordinary efforts to accommodate it for not (in what is assumed to be the most common configuration) a lot more passenger space.

I’m as happy as anyone to see Airbus’ current problems and the resurgence of Boeing, but I have an inkling that this is somewhat akin to the rally the dollar had in 2004-2005 before the floor dropped out. Airbus may have taken Boeing’s best shot and be prepared to come roaring out for a finisher over the next decade. (And retaking market share in just a few years.)


14 posted on 11/17/2007 4:42:11 AM PST by Sandreckoner
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To: humblegunner

The more the merrier.

:-D


15 posted on 11/17/2007 4:54:54 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: Thermalseeker

“I recall reading somewhere that the A380 is so heavy it is restricted to only certain airports because many if not most runways at major hubs can’t handle the weight.”


Really, was that in a Boeing press release or something? The following have all been certified as able to handle A380 ops (These are only the airports that were surveyed and expected passenger loads to support the A380 as of last year, and doesn’t include possible alternate or emergency landing airports)....

Tokyo (NRT, HND)
London (LHR,LGW, STN)
New York (JFK, EWR )
Vancouver (YVR)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Paris (CDG, ORY)
Los Angeles (LAX)
Montreal (YUL)
Singapore (SIN)
Frankfurt (FRA)
San Francisco (SFO,OAK)
Toronto (YYZ)
Bangkok (BKK,BKK II)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Honolulu (HNL)
Sao Paulo (GRU,VCP)
Taipei (TPE)
Rome (FCO)
Miami (MIA)
Rio (GIG )
Seoul (SEL II)
Madrid (MAD)
Chicago (ORD)
Delhi (DEL)
Sapporo (CTS,HKD)
Munich (MUC)
Memphis (MEM)
Mumbai (BOM)
Sydney (SYD)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Anchorage(ANC)
Fort de France (FDF)
Brisbane (BNE)
Washington (IAD)
Pointe à Pitre (PTP)
Melbourne (MEL)
Dallas (DFW,AFW)
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Auckland (AKL)
Orlando (MCO)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Beijing (PEK)
Indianapolis (IND)
Dubai (DXB)
Shanghai (SHAII)
Atlanta (ATL)
Jeddah (JED)
Guangzhou (CANII)
Denver (DEN)
Riyadh (RUH)
Osaka (KIX, ITM)
Detroit (DTW)
Santiago (SCL)
Okinawa (OKA)
Minneapolis (MSP)
Doha (DOH)
Fukuoka (FUK,KMQ)
Mexico (MEX)
Nagoya (NGO,NGOII)
La Reunion (RUN)
Kagoshima (KOJ,KMI)
Karachi (KHI)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KULII)
Manila (MNL,MNLII,SFS)


16 posted on 11/17/2007 4:59:14 AM PST by BritExPatInFla
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To: BritExPatInFla
Thank you for making my point. This is only a handful of "heavy" airports worldwide that can handle the weight of the A380. Besides that, do you really think there is sufficient demand for air travel to places like Memphis, TN, or Orlando, FL, such that the local airport authorities or the airlines would be willing to spend millions of dollars to accommodate these Airbust behemoths just because they carry a few more passengers?

In order for these airports to be able to handle the A380, each of these facilities will require specialized ground handling equipment bought only for use with the A380 because it is so big. This adds literally hundreds of millions of dollars to the operational budgets of these facilities because they will be having to shell out funds to build the infrastructure to effectively handle a handful of airplanes. It's just not cost effective no matter how you look at it. After all, we are talking about airlines who historically teeter on the brink of bankruptcy every few years and airport authorities who generally are fraught with corruption. I would submit the Atlanta airport as a prime example of the corruption I'm talking about here.

17 posted on 11/17/2007 5:24:45 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

18 posted on 11/17/2007 5:42:29 AM PST by ASA Vet (Boeing 797)
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To: ASA Vet

Schweeeeet!

LLS


19 posted on 11/17/2007 5:54:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: avid

Still not as big as those other iconic Euro-craft, the Titanic and the Hindenburg.


20 posted on 11/17/2007 6:01:27 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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