Surfer's Baja Tale Is Warning To Others (American Tourists Robbed And Raped In Mexico)

SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | November 19, 2007 | Terry Rodgers

[avacado]

I’ve been traveling to Mexico since the late 1970s and this guy’s big mistake was to camp in an isolated area. He even knew that, but still did it. Just like wolves waiting for the weakest deer to fall behind the herd, these banditos pounced upon this guy and his girlfriend. If you treat Mexico as the wilds with the same barbaric rules of nature, then you’ll do all right down there and have fun.

I have had two friends get shot down there and left for dead in trash bags. Their parents had to come get their fly swarmed corpses. Both of them broke the rules of nature and wild Mexico swallowed them whole.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

What are these idiots doing in mexico or close to it?Where was his weapon for self defense?

[Cecily]

“Be proactive. Have a plan, and whenever possible, leave yourself an out.”

Not going to Mexico is also my “proactive plan.”

[DustyMoment]

so I was wondering if there was some hard and fast rule about the use of the two terms in newspaper land.

Yes. When the use of the term is damaging to the perpetrator and he/she/it is a member of a protected class (minority, gay, Hispanic, African-American, etc.), then it is a "sexual assault". When the perpetrator is a white, heterosexual, Christian male, it is a "rape".

[1Old Pro]

If you treat Mexico as the wilds with the same barbaric rules of nature, then you’ll do all right down there and have fun.

No thanks, doesn't sound like fun. I use the same rules here in the USA, I don't vacation in Detroit either.

[Zhang Fei]

I think people think, because of lurid headlines and blockbuster Hollywood crime movies, that foreign countries have lower crime rates than the US. Nothing could be further from the truth. And these tourists have discovered the truth for themselves, the hard way.

[DogByte6RER]

“Sexual assault” is a broad definition for a variety of sex crimes. I don’t want to get too descriptive here, but “sexual assault” typically includes forced sodomy, forced or coerced fondling and touching, anal penetration and vaginal penetration.

Depending on the jurisdiction, the legal definition of rape and sexual assault will vary. Historically, rape has been defined as forced sexual intercourse upon a woman. Other crimes of a sexual nature are typically considered sexual assault.

One can only guess what Mexico’s legal definition of rape and assault are. It is probably the Mexican definition that is in play here since this is where the attack occurred.

[Regulator]

I'm sorry, but I feel zero sympathy for this duck.

It's guys like him who accepted the invasion in the first place. And he's either too stupid or venal to criticize Mexico and recognize it for what it is, so crap like this happens - crap that anyone else with half a brain already understood as being the reality there - but which he denies, or doesn't try to understand.

[AppyPappy]

The only reason these dirty hippies go to Mexico is because they can do anything they want. Buy drugs, get a 12 year old prostitute, whatever. But the lawlessness can bite back sometimes.

Rather odd that armed men just happened to know where to find his RV

[avacado]

"No thanks, doesn't sound like fun. I use the same rules here in the USA, I don't vacation in Detroit either."

But if you surfed, you'd be hard pressed to not camp and surf this beautiful wave for weeks on end.

La Ticla, Michoacan Mexico

[CORedneck]

Remember, Driver License Agreement (DLA) that was in the original Real ID Legislation would require member states to share their driver databases with foreign countries starting with Canada and Mexico. Sensenbrenner and Myrick is trying to force states to sign it along with other Senators/Representatives through legislation such as S.850, H.1355 and H.4065. People need to be aware of the DLA and voice opposition to this Interstate/International Compact. States will be coerced to sign the compact if the legislation passes.

Driver databases have the essential elements such as Social Security numbers that make identity theft convenient.

[DogByte6RER]

I am quite familiar with all of this too.

I live in the San Diego area...

[ßuddaßudd]

My surfing buddies told tales such as this 10 years ago and learned to keep some extra money available to pay their way out of situations. They never did bring females along for good reasons.

[CORedneck]

Additional note on the DLA, it would give corrupt Mexican officials access to data on US citizens and with the SS#, Mexican officials would know the finances of American citizens who vacation there. Good way to invent false charges and extract “la Morida” or bribe out of more affluent Americans who reside in DLA member states.

[LynnHam]

maybe now that he was mugged he’ll become a republican....

[paul51]

Some surfers urged campers to bring a dog and said it's a good idea to have a cell phone or rent a satellite phone.

Take a 12 guage shotgun or stay home

[Vicki]

I will not travel to Mexico. A neighbor of mine went down there and her husband ended up suddenly dying (heart attack), but went she went through to get him back here was unbelievable. Thirty days later or more (can't remember), thousands of dollars, she finally brought his cremated ashes back to the states. She didn't want to cremate him but after so much time lapsed she had no choice.

There all a bunch or crooks.

[goldstategop]

Baja used to be safe. Mexico today is so dangerous its just not worth it for American tourists to go down and see the sights.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[JamesP81]

“Family values don’t end that the border!”

Apparently, they don't start there either.

[norwaypinesavage]

"Take a 12 gauge shotgun or stay home"

Take a 12 gauge shotgun to Mexico, and you'll wind up in jail. I know of a US policeman who inadvertently left a 12 gauge shotgun shell in his car, and wound up in a Mexican jail.