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It's for the children. This is OK here. It doesn't involve intercepting the messages or conversations of terrorists who want to kill us.
1 posted on 11/19/2007 1:17:12 PM PST by neverdem
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Whitey: "You don't expect Mummbles to to go after those who murder informers, do you?"

Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodies?

2 posted on 11/19/2007 1:22:49 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: neverdem
Of note is they intend to confiscate the weapons found, but no one will be arrested. Makes sense......../sarc
3 posted on 11/19/2007 1:23:21 PM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, this will really work.

“What ‘chu mean? That ain’y my baby’s. You pigs put that gun there!”


4 posted on 11/19/2007 1:25:08 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: neverdem
"They don't know what to do when faced with the problem of dealing with a teenage boy in possession of a firearm," police Commissioner Edward Davis said of parents.

Is he bleepin' kiddin'? Most of these parents are either clueless as to what their kids are into or just don't give a bleep. AND for the small numbers that do finally figure out what's going on, apparently they're not smart enough to turn their kid in..........

7 posted on 11/19/2007 1:41:08 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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"They don't know what to do when faced with the problem of dealing with a teenage boy in possession of a firearm,"

Are you kidding me?

8 posted on 11/19/2007 1:46:25 PM PST by JTHomes
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To: neverdem

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10 posted on 11/19/2007 1:49:20 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire

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11 posted on 11/19/2007 1:49:36 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: neverdem

Anybody remember the good old days when the major parental concern about their kids and firearms was how to afford a really nice one to put under the Christmas Tree?


13 posted on 11/19/2007 1:52:33 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (You can't seriously tell me you think we need more laws, or that we don't already have too many.)
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To: neverdem

Boston parents must be different from the ones around here.

Parents in most other places can toss their kids rooms, confiscate contraband of all sorts, dispose of it, and help teach the kid what good behavior is.

Somehow Boston parents don’t have that capability. Or, the Boston cops don’t think they, do, or the cops use subtle coercion to work their way inside for a search and all these assurances are just reassuring noises for the rest of the country so we don’t get riled up.

I think the St Louis experiment got 98% compliance because it’s difficult to say no to a bunch of beefy armed guys with body armor who say “We want in, OK?”

If they say they only wish to search the kids rooms, the kids must be pretty dumb to keep heat in their rooms and not under the living room couch, which apparently the cops are saying is off limits to their consensual searches.


16 posted on 11/19/2007 2:10:39 PM PST by DBrow
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BOSTON — Boston police will ask parents in high-crime areas to let detectives search their children's bedrooms for guns without warrants in a new anti-crime program.

This from the city that went to war over warrantless searches using Writs of Assistance.

I guess the Intolerable Acts are a lot more tolerable now.

18 posted on 11/19/2007 2:13:56 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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No disrespect to the police; but it’s like letting the fox into the hen house.

Also, you let them in the door and you are never going to get them out. The government will find all sorts of ways to invade your privacy. You will lose it.


19 posted on 11/19/2007 2:15:26 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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There will be people here who will argue, "Why not let them in there is nothing to hide?" Well, if there's nothing to hide, they should stay out.

Advertise a special number parents can call if they want, but actively going to homes and flashing a badge can lead to abuse, because people are prone to make decisions based on fear of authority and not knowing the law rather than a informed, rational decision. The police know this.

The article gives away the fact that drugs will not be ignored. Nor will anything else, mind you. "Do you have any guns in the home, Mr./Mrs. ____________? Are they properly stored? Mind if we check while we're here?"

I'm against putting people in a position that by saying "no" to a search, the police officer can assume in any way that there's guilt. That's why I don't like sobriety checkpoints -- if you don't have time to wait in line and you turn around, you're presumed guilty until proven innocent.

What does a sobriety checkpoint have to do with this? Baby steps, that's all I have to say.

20 posted on 11/19/2007 2:24:41 PM PST by scott7278 ("Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I would like to know what we are talking about.")
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IMHO, this is so wrong. Number one, it is a major abuse of authority. People will feel threatened with three cops standing at their front door, asking to come in and search their house. And, how will these people feel if they say, “No way!” They know they will go on a ‘list’ and will be ‘watched’. Might even have a search warrant issued against them, eh?

Second, there it goes, increment by increment. Our Constitution will be dissolved and our sovereignty stripped away.


24 posted on 11/19/2007 3:01:19 PM PST by yorkie
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I assume this comes with immunity for both the parents and kids from prosecution for whatever the police may find, as well as anything they find being off limits for use in obtaining a future warrant? And even then, NO! And being one of the 5% with the stones and Constitutional awareness to say “NO!” must never be able to be used as an index of suspicion.


25 posted on 11/19/2007 3:04:06 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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It will be interesting to see how many people abdicate their responsibility as American citizens and let the cops in? How many people have no clue about the proper role of cops in society? How many have no clue of what the Constitution is let alone what it says?


26 posted on 11/19/2007 3:06:31 PM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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29 posted on 11/19/2007 9:25:02 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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Police believe parents are so worried their teenagers will be caught up in gun violence that they'll be willing to allow police into their homes.

WOW!! What arrogance. What ego.

For the parents who go along with this,.... what stupidity.

31 posted on 11/20/2007 4:33:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Nanny state ping


32 posted on 11/20/2007 4:39:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Anyone who falls for this police-state nanny-crap deserves to be a slave.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

33 posted on 11/20/2007 5:16:15 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Modest amounts of drugs like marijuana will simply be confiscated

and burned later??? "It's a way in which they can get a hold of the household and say, 'I don't want that in my house.'"

Or they could walk into the room and remove it themselves... modeled after one that began in 1994 in St. Louis and ended in 1999, partly because 'funding' ran out.

always a $$$ game...

36 posted on 11/20/2007 5:38:42 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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