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Chavez: Only a 'Traitor' Will Vote No
AP via Breitbart ^ | Nov 23 2007 | DAN KEANE

Posted on 11/23/2007 4:09:39 PM PST by roaddog727

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez warned his supporters on Friday that anyone voting against his proposed constitutional changes would be a "traitor," rallying his political base before a referendum that would let him seek unlimited re-election in 2012 and beyond.

Brandishing a little red book listing his desired 69 revisions to Venezuela's charter, Chavez exhorted his backers to redouble their efforts toward a victorious "yes" vote in the Dec. 2 ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; hugochavez; venezuela
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To: infidel29
funny how the left will tolerate a dictator like Chavez but they will not tolerate George W Bush. And I mean funny like peculiar and not ha ha.
41 posted on 11/23/2007 8:29:02 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: roaddog727

Hillary’s hero.


42 posted on 11/23/2007 9:12:42 PM PST by madison10
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To: Ronin

the major concern is that he has a huge oil revenue, is funding opposition parties in various latin countries, and is going to provide an increasingly large destabilizing effect in latin america.

after the botched 2002 removal, i think he is in for (long) life.


43 posted on 11/23/2007 9:20:54 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Oil by itself doesn’t guarantee wealth. It’s an extremely complex business, requiring a huge number of skilled people in the middle income ranges.

Exactly the kind of people that Hugo is pissing off the worst and who are fleeing the country in major numbers.

You can’t eat oil. A 30 day total boycott of Venezuelan crude by the US would unseat him.

They can’t ship it elsewhere. All the refineries are booked via long-term contracts.


44 posted on 11/23/2007 9:32:43 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Ronin

the major concern is that he has a huge oil revenue, is funding opposition parties in various latin countries, and is going to provide an increasingly large destabilizing effect in latin america.

after the botched 2002 removal, i think he is in for (long) life.


45 posted on 11/23/2007 9:35:31 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: roaddog727
He’s by far the WORST either president or former president this country has ever suffered through.

There have been worse. James Buchanan comes to mind. It is hard to surpass his 'achievements': the Dred Scott case, the Bloody Kansas revolt, bleeding the treasury dry, crackdowns on abolitionists, and of course basically ignoring all calls for secession (and then not doing anything about it when it occurred).

46 posted on 11/23/2007 9:40:53 PM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: infidel29

“...but Hugo, the leftists in OUR country say political dissent is patriotic. Which is it?”

It’s only “patriotic” when it’s the left “speaking truth to power.”

They think people on the right should be shot.


47 posted on 11/23/2007 9:46:04 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Ronin

you make good points.

He certainly has caused a massive brain drain at PDVSA and the country as a whole. One can only assume efficiency at pdvsa has plummeted in the last 5 years.

It is my understanding china is either building or discussing building refineries in china able to process venezuelan crude, but even if so it would be years before they come online I assume, so as you note he is very limited in who can actually process his not-so-fungible heavy sludge crude.

my short view is that venezuela is screwed, and this guy is going to send hundreds of millions to every other latin country to unseat traditional oligarchic governments (aka democracies). what a mess.


48 posted on 11/23/2007 10:01:20 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Nateman

District 1:
Chavez: 333
Other guy: 97

District 2:
Chavez: 333
Other guy: 106

District 3:
Chavez: 333
Other guy: 49

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49 posted on 11/23/2007 11:52:41 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: Lexinom

You forgot the other statistic:

Population of district 1: 98


50 posted on 11/24/2007 12:14:16 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Ronin
“You can’t eat oil. A 30 day total boycott of Venezuelan crude by the US would unseat him.

They can’t ship it elsewhere. All the refineries are booked via long-term contracts.”

One other point of consideration - The oil pumped out of Venezuela, is for all intents and purposes, sludge, and requires a particularly capability to refine it. That capability resides in the US. So, if we stop refining his oil, he’s really up the creek.

Hermano Hugo, Come Aciete y mierda.

51 posted on 11/24/2007 4:43:55 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: roaddog727

Pat Robertson was right. 25 cents spent on lead a long time ago would have avoided having to read about this knuclehead again and again.


52 posted on 11/24/2007 5:04:26 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: roaddog727

The people of Venezuela are in for some difficult times.Hopefully not 70 years' worth.

53 posted on 11/24/2007 6:32:57 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Ronin
A 30 day total boycott of Venezuelan crude by the US would unseat him.

They can’t ship it elsewhere. All the refineries are booked via long-term contracts.

So how would we get oil for those 30 days?

54 posted on 11/24/2007 11:47:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: roaddog727
The oil pumped out of Venezuela, is for all intents and purposes, sludge, and requires a particularly capability to refine it. That capability resides in the US.

Venezuela produces about 2.8 million barrels of oil per day. We import about 1.1 million barrels of that. They use about 0.6 million and the rest is imported to other countries that are already refining Venezuelan oil.

Top World Oil Producers, Exporters and Consumers
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.htm

U.S. Crude Oil Imports by Country of Origin
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_a.htm

55 posted on 11/24/2007 11:56:29 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: mylife
I wish someone would wax this guy

it won't be long, I don't think.

56 posted on 11/24/2007 2:24:37 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: thackney
thanks for posting the stats. It's been a while since I look at them.

I knew russia was number two in production, but for some reason I didn't know that the US was number three, right behind them.

57 posted on 11/24/2007 2:26:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: thackney

Use the strategic reserves and import more from other sources.

Venezuela is number four down the list of countries that we import oil from. Canada, our largest supplier, is not even a member of OPEC.

I am not saying it would be cost free. It would definitely jack up the prices of other imports and we would pay more at the pump, but it would knock the legs out of the Venezuelan economy in very short order.

The bottom line is they need to sell to us more than we need to buy from them and if we choke off the supply of dollars, they are going to be in a world of hurt.


58 posted on 11/24/2007 8:52:08 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: thackney
**A 30 day total boycott of Venezuelan crude by the US would unseat him.

They can’t ship it elsewhere. All the refineries are booked via long-term contracts.

***So how would we get oil for those 30 days?

Is your comfort more important than ridding this hemisphere of a lunatic?

Nevermind.....I think I know the answer.

59 posted on 11/24/2007 8:58:01 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Thumper1960

It would not get rid of Chavez.


60 posted on 11/24/2007 9:21:20 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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