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Think twice before using deadly force
KHOU Houston ^ | Thursday, November 29, 2007 | Dave Fehling / 11 News

Posted on 12/03/2007 1:52:49 PM PST by YCTHouston

You may have one at home right now: a gun.

Would you use it to stop someone who’s stealing from you or from your neighbor?

It’s what happened earlier this month in Pasadena, but using deadly force can have repercussions that could cost you far more than whatever it was the thieves were after.

(Excerpt) Read more at khou.com ...


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No "Barf Alerts" please; this about legal advice in the event you have to defend yourself.

Interesting quote: “There’s an attorney attached to every bullet you fire,” lawyer Tom Nixon said.

Website with free advice for CCL holders: Concealed Carry Legal Services

1 posted on 12/03/2007 1:52:50 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston
Interesting quote: “There’s an attorney attached to every bullet
you fire,” lawyer Tom Nixon said.


Leaches, lawyers, what's the diff?

Sometime you actually will need the biggest, baddest, slickest
lawyer you might not be able to afford.

(that's something one of my lawyer buddies told me)
2 posted on 12/03/2007 1:55:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: YCTHouston
I would try to hold them for the police but if they made a move towards me, I would stop them.
3 posted on 12/03/2007 1:55:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: YCTHouston

I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


4 posted on 12/03/2007 1:56:28 PM PST by joebuck
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To: YCTHouston

The only problems occur when someone thinks they can shoot someone fleeing away in the back. Just remember imminent danger and all is fine.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 1:57:22 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: YCTHouston
...deadly force can have repercussions that could cost you far more than whatever it was the thieves were after. ...

I don't have ESP, so I don't know if the "thieves" are there to rob me or kill me.

So, I'll err on the side of BLOWING THEIR FREAKING A$$ES AWAY!

(btw, I *can* predict sports scores. I have ESPN)

6 posted on 12/03/2007 1:57:22 PM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: YCTHouston
It’s what happened earlier this month in Pasadena, but using deadly force can have repercussions that could cost you far more than whatever it was the thieves were after.

What if the thieves want to rape your daughter?

7 posted on 12/03/2007 1:57:28 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: YCTHouston
I heard the tapes and understand he was allowed to defend the property of his neighbor if his neighbor asked him to.

Lets say the neighbor did not ask that, once the two criminals started to approach the old guy on his property, he was within his right to shoot him by Texas law.

Bottom line, two thieves are dead (I believe they were illegals).
The race baiters tried to make this a race issue because the two criminals happened to be black and the shooter was an older white guy.
The issue isn’t race, it is “that crime doesn’t pay”, especially under Texas law.

If you want to blame someone, blame the criminals themselves or the parents who failed to raise them with respect for others and their property.

8 posted on 12/03/2007 1:57:31 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: YCTHouston
There’s an attorney attached to every bullet you fire.

I like that ratio.

9 posted on 12/03/2007 1:57:33 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: joebuck

Exactly, I’ll take my chances.


10 posted on 12/03/2007 1:58:38 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: andy58-in-nh

LOL!


11 posted on 12/03/2007 1:59:40 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I would try to hold them for the police but if they made a move towards me, I would stop them.

Ditto. I'd let 'em steal my Beemer before I shot 'em. My legal defense fees would likely cost me ten Beemers.

12 posted on 12/03/2007 1:59:48 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64

The moral to the story is don’t talk about it. Just do what you’ve gotta do.


13 posted on 12/03/2007 2:02:15 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: YCTHouston
Ummm...this guy needs to keep up...a new law just passed in Texas and went into effect September 1st:

The new law, which takes affect on September 1, extends an exception to a statute that required a person to retreat in the face of a criminal attack. The exception was in the case of an intruder unlawfully entering a person's home.

The law extends a person's right to stand their ground beyond the home to vehicles and workplaces, allowing the reasonable use of deadly force, the governor's office said.

The reasonable use of lethal force will be allowed if an intruder is:

Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes

Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place

Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.

The law also provides civil immunity for a person who lawfully slays an intruder or attacker in such situations.

Source


14 posted on 12/03/2007 2:02:22 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Brilliant
SSS
15 posted on 12/03/2007 2:04:02 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: YCTHouston
Think twice before using deadly force

One thought : Do I need to shoot?

Second thought: Aim I aiming correctly?

BLAM!!

Ok the title is fair enough.

16 posted on 12/03/2007 2:05:30 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: A CA Guy

The race pimps went down to Pasadena for their regular dog & pony, and basically got chased out of the neighborhood by about 500 supporters of the right to self-defense.

Video:
http://www.blogsofwar.com/2007/12/03/video-quanell-x-and-the-new-black-panther-party-confronted-by-joe-horn-supporters/


17 posted on 12/03/2007 2:06:11 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: andy58-in-nh

funny


18 posted on 12/03/2007 2:07:34 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: rednesss

There are laws that govern when and if a police officer can shoot a fleeing criminal in the back. If all of the following four conditions are met -

the criminal is a violent felon

the criminal is likely to be a danger to the general community

the criminal is definitely trying to escape (running, as opposed to walking away slowly)

the officer has exhausted other reasonable means of apprehending the criminal (chasing and tackling him, for example)

- then it is considered acceptable for the officer to shoot the fleeing criminal in the back. However, ordinary citizens are usually not given the same allowance.

But, with the thing about a lawyer for every bullet fired - there’s a lawyer for every bullet the cops fire as well, not to mention lots of paperwork.


19 posted on 12/03/2007 2:08:00 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: joebuck
"I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

I prefer that quote rather than the "lawyer" quote.

My CHL instructor reminded me of that one.

20 posted on 12/03/2007 2:08:18 PM PST by lormand ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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