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The CAGOP is against amnesty and for secure borders. It has unified rather than split the state party.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/05/2007 9:37:48 AM PST by goldstategop
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2 posted on 12/05/2007 9:38:34 AM PST by gubamyster
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Anything the California GOP agrees upon, instantly become a state secret anyway, so big wow. This is the last we’ll hear of this. The illegals must be thrilled.


3 posted on 12/05/2007 9:40:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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You would think a story about immigration and the California GOP would at least mention Duncan Hunter.


4 posted on 12/05/2007 9:41:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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Duncan Hunter has actually done something about Illegal immigration by building a portion of the fence. Phil Watson missed that key element to the story.


10 posted on 12/05/2007 10:07:50 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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“Hispanics are not monolithic. Some of them happen to agree that something must be done about illegal immigration,” said Pacheco

I was in the family store yesterday and a hispanic man about 30 came in. He was talking to me while looking at some stuff and said he had just got back from visiting his kids up by San Jose. He started going off about illegals. Said his family had been here for over a hundred years and he hates what they have done to California. He was talking about all the freebies they get and said every one of them needs to be deported back to where they came from. He said he hates being lumped in with them as ‘hispanic’.
I have hispanic friends who feel the same way but it is refreshing to actually hear them come out and talk about it.
They are Americans who want the illegals expelled...period.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 10:12:35 AM PST by sheana
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So where do conservatives, especially those in California, go for “sanctuary” these days FRom all the loonies and illegals 8-?

Saw an article a couple days ago that says 10% of San Jose’s population is “undocumented”. Quite the sanctuary city, eh? More like enclave.


18 posted on 12/05/2007 10:34:20 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: goldstategop
The CAGOP is against amnesty and for secure borders. It has unified rather than split the state party.

Sure, the party appears more unified, but:

1) It sure seems smaller as a result and,

2) The only leadership that can get elected statewide has figured out that they can't adopt the same position as the base.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm against illegal immigration. However, I'm also pro-immigration generally. The way Republicans talk lately (especially Hannity and O'Reilly) the "pro-immigration" part gets totally obscured.

I'll say it again. Huckabee has this figured out. And yes, maybe he'll come down in favor of some sort of "amnesty" but anything short of "send everyone home no matter what if they or their parents or their grandparents got here illegally" is amnesty to a lot of you. Problem is, you can't win an election on that platform, though I guess it feels real good to keep shouting it.

As I see it, it's a two-part problem. One, what do we do about porous borders? Answer: Close 'em. Two: what do we do about the 20-25 million illegals who walked across when we had open borders (effectively)? My answer: Use some common sense and realize that most are hard-working people trying to help their families, then find a legal way for them to eventually continue doing that. There are plenty of options, but anything short of "send the ALL home" brings shouts of "Amnesty, Amnesty!" from too many people, especially in here.

I'm pretty sure Huckabee's answer is pretty close to mine, so let's see how the general electorate responds to his message. My bet? He continues to make significant gains the more people hear. But we'll see.

24 posted on 12/05/2007 11:24:45 AM PST by Norseman
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