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The Transcript of the GOP's Univision Debate
Townhall ^ | 12/09/2007 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 12/09/2007 8:37:28 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks for posting this. I will re-read it tomorrow. I can’t imagine a bunch of democrats doing quite as well as the republicans. May it was worth going before this audience.

One thing I do know, is the Hispanic community that has fought long and hard to become legal citizens, do not want that right squandered by illegal immigration. Republicans have missed this point intirely in the past!


61 posted on 12/10/2007 1:34:18 AM PST by TheLion
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To: AuntB
Am I reading this right...the moderator introduced each of the candidates except Hunter? Tell me I’m wrong, please.

You are reading correctly, but both transcripts are wrong. I did watch the beginning of the debate on KMEX in Los Angeles. Hunter was introduced along with the others.

62 posted on 12/10/2007 2:35:30 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Yossarian; Admin Moderator

Yossarian’s transcript is much cleaner. Could you replace the original post with this one?


63 posted on 12/10/2007 3:14:10 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: calcowgirl

“Hunter was introduced along with the others.”

That’s good to hear.


64 posted on 12/10/2007 4:07:49 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: AuntB

“Isn’t that a contradiction to his recent statements.”

Seems like most of Fred’s “new” plan for illegal immigration is a contradiction to his previous statements. IMO, Fred is still talking out of both sides of his mouth. Had he wanted to be clear about the 14th Amendment, he could have easily stated that it needed to be clarified to disallow giving anchor babies legal status. Instead, he chose to be vague. In other instances his “new” plan is a complete flip flop (employer penalties). And because he has stated that he only opposes blanket amnesty and that we must first determine who is here and give them aspirations of citizenship, I am wondering how this fits with his declaration of being anti-amnesty. Huckabee and Bush have also stated that they are anti-amnesty and illegals must go “to the end of the line”, but, at the same time would be willing to allow illegals to ‘touchback’ and return, not having to wait at the end of the line in their home country. This may be what Fred has in mind for (non-criminal?) illegal aliens. Even Romney’s answer was more specific than Freds. Bottom line, he’s keeping everyone guessing on exactly what he means. I just don’t trust him.


65 posted on 12/10/2007 4:21:22 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Good stuff.


66 posted on 12/10/2007 4:28:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

ugh! It is like a little Jimmy Carter. They want jobs and Minister Mike will give em jobs. People and markets make jobs not some populist politican!

MODERATOR: Governor Huckabee, how do you explain the decline of support to Republicans by Hispanics?

HUCKABEE: I think Hispanics want the same thing everybody wants.

They want jobs. They want education. They want to know that they’re going to be able to live with freedom. If the Republicans only got 30 percent of the vote, somehow we didn’t do a very good job of communicating that that’s what we would provide in terms of opportunity and fairness.

It says more about our party and our need to reach out thank it does about than it does about the Hispanic population of this country.

If we’re really serious about truly saying we want more than 30 percent of the vote, then as we look at issues like education we’ll understand that while the dropout rate from high school is 30 percent among all populations, it’s 50 percent among Hispanics.

HUCKABEE: We’ve got to change that by creating personalized education that focuses on perpetuating what’s good for students, not just making what’s good for the school.

There’s also issues and disparities between diabetes and other issues of health. So I think, if our policies reflect lifting people up, we’ll get the vote.


67 posted on 12/10/2007 4:42:17 AM PST by ridge
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To: All; Petronski; jellybean; pissant; Calpernia; Kevmo; AuntB; Antoninus; redgirlinabluestate
Photos of the debate.

Some favorites:


Wonder what Rudy and the Huckster look so tense about. LOL


Fred.


Hunter and Lady Liberty.

68 posted on 12/10/2007 5:13:30 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thank you!

Duncan Hunter for president!


69 posted on 12/10/2007 5:15:08 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Does anyone other than me see the irony in having a debate among presidential candidates on a network that caters to people who don’t speak english?


70 posted on 12/10/2007 5:17:52 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: SuziQ
Thank you for a cogent response to the perceived minimum wiggle room for Fred. Apparently this site has more RINO’s cloaking themselves as conservatives. Anyone suing this forum to advance anyone but Thompson and Hunter and Tracado are pseudo republicans and lack conservative values.
71 posted on 12/10/2007 5:27:23 AM PST by captnorb
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To: Kevmo
If the liberal evangelical Huckabee can take the lead from out of nowhere, so can Hunter the true conservative evangelical. .

But he needs the help of the MSM and he's not going to get it.

72 posted on 12/10/2007 5:38:51 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

That’s for darn sure.


73 posted on 12/10/2007 5:47:29 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Can anyone tell me why Ron Paul is even up there? From his rhetoric he should be running as a Democrat. He uses the exact same rhetoric as them in virtually every one of his statements.
74 posted on 12/10/2007 6:13:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: MNJohnnie

The dude needs to learn some basic history.


75 posted on 12/10/2007 6:25:03 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: AuntB
“It’s late, I’ve got a toothache, I’ve scanned 2 transcripts. Am I reading this right...the moderator introduced each of the candidates except Hunter? Tell me I’m wrong, please.”

That is what it looks like to me. Perhaps the person who did the transcript left out the introduction of Hunter, just don’t know. I also noticed that they mentioned the marital status of all the candidates and how many children and/or grandchildren they have, except for Thompson.

76 posted on 12/10/2007 6:28:04 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: tyke
Like it or not, the US is home to the 5th largest Spanish speaking community in the world and the majority of them live in states the Republicans have to win to keep the presidency in 2008. This is not the old Cuban community that can be placated by keeping the embargo on Castro in place.

If they are American citizens and can vote, they should know English. Why should the candidates depend on translators to communicate their message? We need to make English the OFFICIAL language of this country or we will be Balkanized along cultural and linguistic lines. We see what has happened in Canada.

77 posted on 12/10/2007 6:31:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: Kimberly GG
You mischaracterize Fred's plan. I suggest you read it. It is the most detailed of all the candidates. He is for attrition through enforcement.
78 posted on 12/10/2007 6:37:32 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

“We see what has happened in Canada.”

Off topic...but yeah...I see what has happened in Canada...they actually exploit their vast reserves of oil and gas while we ignore ours.


79 posted on 12/10/2007 6:38:46 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: ridge
HUCKABEE: If you can get an American Express card in two weeks, it shouldn't take seven years to get a work permit to come to this country in order to work on a farm.

(APPLAUSE)

So if our government is incapable of making that process in that length of time, then we should do it in a way to outsource it. And here's why: When people come to this country, they shouldn't fear. They shouldn't live in hiding. They ought to have their heads up, because the one thing about being an American is, we believe every person ought to have his or her head up and proud, and nobody should have to be in hiding because they're illegal when our government ought to make it so that people can reasonably come here in a legal fashion."

Huckabee is using the old Pence touch back scam. He is pro-amnesty because he is "compassionate."

80 posted on 12/10/2007 6:44:13 AM PST by kabar
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