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Falkenberg: Property outweighing people in Horn case
The Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 12, 2007, 10:58PM | LISA FALKENBERG

Posted on 12/13/2007 8:32:57 AM PST by BradtotheBone

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1 posted on 12/13/2007 8:33:01 AM PST by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone
lisa.falkenberg@chron.com

She's getting pummeled in the posts to her article at the source.

2 posted on 12/13/2007 8:36:16 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: BradtotheBone

Texas has some terrific laws. Horn should walk.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 8:38:04 AM PST by Jacquerie (There is food value in beer. There is no beer value in food.)
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To: BradtotheBone

“Human life is worth more than property. It seems like a universal truth.”

Does it, now?

It seems like a universal truth to me that when you set out to commit a crime, you assume the risk that someone may shoot you for it.

BTW, Lisa, sweetie, does that apply to the unauthorized use of your genitals? They are, after all, your property. Should we indict you if you shoot a man rather than let him use your body?


4 posted on 12/13/2007 8:39:02 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc

ROFL !


5 posted on 12/13/2007 8:40:37 AM PST by BradtotheBone
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"My sense is that the reason, not just Texas, but other states have been enacting statutes more and more like this is because politicians are afraid to vote against them," said Steven Goode, a law professor at the University of Texas.

"They don't want the next attack ad to be one where they are criticized for voting against someone's ability to protect themselves in their home."

"In a calmer and less politicized environment we might have different laws," Goode said.

If those DAMNED citizens would just keep their noses out of this, we could protect the illegals stealing us blind!

6 posted on 12/13/2007 8:40:52 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: BradtotheBone
The law of our land seems to place more value on the property being stolen — even if it belongs to a neighbor — than on the life of the burglar stealing it.

The burglers are breaking and entering on private property, you idiot. They have no right to be there. If something bad happens to them, oh well. Granted, I probably would have called the police and left it at that. But I don't have a problem with the neighbor taking action.

7 posted on 12/13/2007 8:41:21 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Learning the Mexican Hat Dance.)
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To: BradtotheBone
To many of us, Horn's preoccupation with stopping the crime and recovering the stolen property — "a bag of loot," as Horn described it — seemed irrational and vengeful rather than heroic.

Property versus human life Human life is worth more than property. It seems like a universal truth. But apparently not in Texas, or other states with similar laws.

What a steaming pile of crap. My property isn't worth my life in the sense that I wouldn't risk going back into a burning house to retrieve it .. but I'll damn sure arm myself an do what is required to keep a criminal form walking off with it.

The person who decided that their life wasn't as valuable as my property is the thief, not me.

8 posted on 12/13/2007 8:44:13 AM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: BradtotheBone

Personally I’m glad two more thieving illegals are dead. If the guy winds up having to set up a defense fund I’ll be contributing.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 8:47:52 AM PST by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: BradtotheBone

The benefit of the doubt should accrue to the innocent homeowner looking to be safe and secure in his home and neighborhood.


10 posted on 12/13/2007 8:52:12 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Now, one might argue that, since the dispatcher told Horn that police were on their way, Horn should have reasonably believed authorities would nab the bad guys.

Hmmm but so many time the authorities don't nab the bad guys...Maybe Horn was just sick of seeing the crooks win again. I like the guy & hope he walks & stays safe.

11 posted on 12/13/2007 8:53:50 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: BradtotheBone
Even if they don't indict him, it doesn't mean Horn's actions were morally right. He chose to kill; he didn't have to.

It doesn't logically follow, that's true. But we're not playing the vague implication game today -- his actions were indeed morally right.

12 posted on 12/13/2007 8:55:24 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BradtotheBone
Human life is worth more than property.

A distinction without a difference. Stealing property is the same as stealing the portion of my life I spent working to get the money to obtain it.

If Horn doesn't get indicted, don't blame the grand jury. And don't blame Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal.

Why on earth would I "blame" anyone for a good thing? ("Damn you; it's your fault I won the lottery!" "You idiot, it's your fault the police radar malfunctioned when I was going 15 MPH over the speed limit!")

The fact that they were on his yard may provide Horn with even more protection.

As well it should.

He chose to kill; he didn't have to.

They chose to burgle; they didn't have to. It's on their heads.

The same law that may protect Horn from indictment could also protect someone who, in the dark of night, discovers a group of teenage girls wrapping his front yard trees with toilet paper.

Your straw man offends my sinuses.

13 posted on 12/13/2007 9:06:23 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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"Ain't no property worth shooting somebody over,"

Obviously the thieves thought the property was worth more than their lives.

14 posted on 12/13/2007 9:19:11 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: BradtotheBone
Over the past week, I've researched the Texas Penal Code and discovered some provisions that were surprising even to this fifth-generation Texan.

Well this former journalist and fifth-generation Texan would love to this bed-wetting liberal reporter leave this state immediately!

Her ancestors are definitely spinning in their graves!
15 posted on 12/13/2007 9:19:30 AM PST by TexanByBirth (Vote Democrat - It's easier than thinking!)
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To: BradtotheBone

People that crazy enough break into your home will kill you too.

I support Horn.

America has a belly full of crime and illegal aliens.

The only way Horn is convicted by a jury, is if Johnny Sutton takes the case, changes the venue to Colombia, and stacks the jury with drug smugglers and other criminals.


16 posted on 12/13/2007 9:20:49 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: BradtotheBone
Now, one might argue that, since the dispatcher told Horn that police were on their way, Horn should have reasonably believed authorities would nab the bad guys.

Snort.

17 posted on 12/13/2007 9:20:58 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
My email to Lisa:
Lisa:

Great fair and balanced reporting
except the last four lines.
There you are editorializing.

Your elitist, collectivist, statist views are very clear.


18 posted on 12/13/2007 9:25:32 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: mewzilla

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!


19 posted on 12/13/2007 9:27:51 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Lisa's reply:
Thanks for writing. I'm a metro columnist, which means I mix news reporting with commentary.

Lisa Falkenberg
Metro Columnist
Houston Chronicle
Office: 713-362-6479
Fax: 713-362-6806
Please note new cell phone: 832-367-7123


20 posted on 12/13/2007 9:38:03 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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