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If You Like The Energy Fiasco (Woa... Here California Goes Again Alert)
Sacramento Bee ^ | 12/18/2007 | Dan Walters

Posted on 12/18/2007 12:23:42 AM PST by goldstategop

Philosopher George Santayana said it best: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

A bit of political history was repeated Monday when the state Assembly voted 46-31 along party lines for an immense new health care scheme without knowing whether it would work, or even how it would work – very much like the Legislature enacted a far-reaching energy "deregulation" scheme in 1996 that turned out to be a humongous disaster.

The Assembly Appropriations Committee conducted a pro forma hearing and gave party-line approval, even though, as one critic, Donna Gerber of the California Nurses Association, observed, "You don't know what's in the bill."

For one thing, the all-important financing component of what Núñez described as a $14.4 billion expansion of health care for millions of Californians who now lack it is completely missing.

Núñez and Schwarzenegger say it will be financed by levies on employers and hospitals, a new cigarette tax, payments from consumers under a new mandatory insurance section and federal funds, but details would be written later and placed before voters next year. And it's highly likely that requiring employers to pay 1 percent to 6.5 percent of their payroll into health care violates long-standing federal law, as courts have held in other states.

For another, the details on how the health insurance mandate would affect employers, consumers and others would be left to an obscure bureaucracy.

So why, one wonders, would the Governor and the Speaker push an incomplete, unclear and legally questionable health plan, especially when they face an immense deficit in the state budget that Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata rightly says should be addressed first?

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldcare; california; danwalters; deregulationfiasco; sacramentobee; socializedmedicine
Does any one in California remember the hastily put together energy deregulation bill that nearly melted down California's utility industry? ArnoldCare is a hastily concocted piece of legislation. No one knows what is in it, it lacks sound financing and Californians' health care decisions would be made by an obscure bureaucracy. Oh wait - it just gets even better. The business mandate outlined in the bill violates the federal ERISA law, so its unconstitutional as written. Woa... here California goes again... down the path of sheer folly. Its time to cease and desist.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/18/2007 12:23:46 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Don’t you wish that if you were too stupid for too long you’d just suddenly stop breathing??

The California State Legislature would consist of about two dozen Republicans.


2 posted on 12/18/2007 1:11:06 AM PST by HKMk23 (My dog is totally phobic about Global Worming.)
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Yippee, now I can get on my dirt bike, and ride as fast as I want, knowing if I crash and break some bones in a remote location, a free ride in a Medivac helicopter awaits. And of course I will demand we land at Cedar Sinai or Santa Monica. I want the same doctors who treat Arnold taking care of me.
3 posted on 12/18/2007 1:22:03 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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The number of Californians leaving for other states is why I made so much money on my first house here.

Its a beautiful state with great weather but I would not live there for three times the money I make now.

They can’t afford this which means Uncle Sam will bail Ahnold out which means we all pay as usual.

Amerika! What a country!


4 posted on 12/18/2007 1:32:59 AM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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Arnold likes to talk up California as 'the largest economy' in the Northern Hemisphere when considered state by state. California could go it alone, financially devolve from the greater US govt. and we would all be better off.

If they go bankrupt, we wouldn't have to bail them out.

5 posted on 12/18/2007 2:15:57 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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Does everyone know that all the Democrats and a few of the Republicans are all proposing "FREE" healthcare plans that require young people to buy insurance, on the theory that since they don't need it but are forced to buy it anyway, that "extra" money can be used to reduce other people's costs?

Can you imagine being required to buy something that you don't need so someone else who does need it, can use your money to have theirs cheaper?

...Oh ...Wait a minute... so can I.

6 posted on 12/18/2007 3:03:08 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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“the all-important financing component ...is completely missing.”

Your typical liberal. California’s legislative fools need to make this mistake in order to serve as a warning to all those who might try to do the same on the federal level.


7 posted on 12/18/2007 3:48:23 AM PST by Brilliant
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This will fail too. And then California will ask for a federal bailout.


8 posted on 12/18/2007 4:28:50 AM PST by NRG1973
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“If they go bankrupt, we wouldn’t have to bail them out.”

We would most likely give them foreign aid and this would be without receiving any tax revenue for the Fed. coffers.


9 posted on 12/18/2007 4:35:53 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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What’s crazier: California’s unfunded healthcare mandate or California AB 32, which is being used by environmental groups and the California Attorney General to stifle private and public real estate development in the name of CO2 emission mitigation?


10 posted on 12/18/2007 8:02:50 AM PST by p. henry
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If you thought energy deregulation was a hoot.. Stand by!
You ain't seen nothin' yet!
aRnoldCare
Gubby: I'm so happy, I could kiss you.
Fabian: But what would Maria say?

11 posted on 12/18/2007 9:53:50 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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This one will be used to provide illegals with free health care while every one else pays full freight. And of course the bureaucrats in Sacramento will determine what health care plan you're eligible for. Call it Austrosocialism on the march!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 12/18/2007 11:01:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I foresee healthcare professionals leaving California and providing service to their customers just across the border.

Kind of like Canada.


13 posted on 12/18/2007 11:12:14 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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