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Some (Victims' families) decry N.J. death penalty abolition
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/18/07 | Tom Hester, Jr. - ap

Posted on 12/18/2007 10:27:35 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/18/2007 10:27:36 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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N.J. Gov. Jon S. Corzine glances down at a bill he just signed which replaces the state's death penalty with life in prison without any possibility of parole Monday, Dec. 17, 2007 at the State House in Trenton, N.J. The bipartisan bill was passed in the state senate and assembly last week. (AP Photo/MJ Schear)


2 posted on 12/18/2007 10:28:16 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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A recent Quinnipiac University poll showed New Jersey voters supported keeping the death penalty by 53 percent to 39 percent. The telephone poll of 1,085 voters was conducted from Dec. 5-9 and had a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.


3 posted on 12/18/2007 10:28:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: NormsRevenge

What an idiot.


4 posted on 12/18/2007 10:32:00 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: NormsRevenge

Richard Kanka also asked if Gov Corzine was going to have a group hug with all the death row inmates.


5 posted on 12/18/2007 10:32:34 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A mitigating factor is that they haven’t even used it since 1976.

Is a penalty you don’t have the guts to carry out really that much better than not having it at all? Studies would say no.

6 posted on 12/18/2007 10:34:10 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Incorrigible

Victims don’t vote. Felons and their Advocates do.


7 posted on 12/18/2007 10:34:30 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NormsRevenge

No one cares about the victims, we’re talking about the rights of the accused.
Murderers and the like need their rights protected.

B.S.


9 posted on 12/18/2007 10:39:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: NormsRevenge

If NJ doesn’t want a death penalty, that is their right. However, if Texas wants to execute the condemned by hanging, that should be there right as well.

My point is that it is not in the authority of the federal government to order States to execute certain types of criminals, nor should it be in their authority to nit pick, within reason, about how States who want capital punishment should carry it out.

Methods of execution should be as pain-free as possible, by this I mean “not torturous”, but they should also be certain and quick. However, “aesthetically pleasing to observers”, while given a small consideration, should not be critical in determining means.

For this reason, electrocution is the best known means of execution. Electricity is faster than nervous impulses, and burns out the ability of the brain to feel pain *faster* than it *can* feel pain. In addition, it also stops the heart, so painless death is doubly assured.

Lethal injection, while aesthetically pleasing, cannot guarantee success as fast. Nor can cyanide gas, which can cause a torturous and painful death if you breathe normally instead of hold your breath and inhale it all at once. Bullet execution, like in Utah, can be problematic.

Hanging takes considerable skill, and is easy to mess up. And the guillotine is gross, if efficient.

So electrocution is best.


10 posted on 12/18/2007 10:39:36 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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elections have consequences...

evidently, a majority of the voters who vote in NJ approve of some criminals sponging off them for the rest of (all) their lives.

They like the criminals having cable tv, access to libraries, health centers and 3 squares a day.

...if I was a killer, I would take up residence in NJ just in case I got caught.

11 posted on 12/18/2007 10:40:41 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: Incorrigible
repost with correct name of the perp behind the passage of Megan's Law

Jesse Timmendequas of 'Megan's Law' fame.

I don't know if one can do cartwheels in a death row cell,
but at this point, a hug'll do, I reckun.

12 posted on 12/18/2007 10:41:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Victims’ families are upset? Victims? What are those?


13 posted on 12/18/2007 10:41:57 AM PST by Robwin
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To: B.O. Plenty

Maybe the voters but not public opinion. The political elite have decided to go against public opinion, which favors retaining the death penalty and abolish it. The question is will the public hold their politicians accountable. If not, they deserve what they get.


14 posted on 12/18/2007 10:45:28 AM PST by kabar
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t life without chance of parole cruel and unusual punishment?


15 posted on 12/18/2007 10:50:15 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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When we start executing rich white people, I may reconsider my opposition to the death penalty.
16 posted on 12/18/2007 11:20:03 AM PST by starlifter
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Isn’t life without chance of parole cruel and unusual punishment?

This is NJ & in my state I am embarrassed to say anything can happen. So do I trust life w/o a chance of parole real? No I don't! I can see killers getting out for some reason or another. I don't trust the politicians here at all. There was no reason to change this law as we weren't using it. We should have left it in place. Then if we wanted to use we could have. Most people I talked to don't understand why Corslime had to change it.

17 posted on 12/18/2007 11:25:15 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: NormsRevenge

A POX on your house Corzine - you leftist gasbag.


18 posted on 12/18/2007 11:34:45 AM PST by ohioman
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To: starlifter

WTF?


19 posted on 12/18/2007 11:36:46 AM PST by ohioman
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>When we start executing rich white people, I may reconsider ...

Like, OJ, you mean.


20 posted on 12/18/2007 11:39:22 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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