Cinnamon Stillwell Ping
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Posted on 01/04/2008 10:38:18 AM PST by SmithL
Cinnamon Stillwell's recent column in SF Gate, "Savage vs. CAIR: The battle over free speech" on Dec. 19 offers a holiday assortment of misleading truths and omissions of facts. In her misguided defense of the "Savage Nation" radio show, Stillwell essentially defends anarchistic hate against minority groups including African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Muslims, Catholics, Jews, immigrants and women. She does so under the pretense of defending free speech.
Of course, most elementary school students will tell you that hate speech is not to be confused with free speech.
CAIR, the California Council of Churches, Rabbi Haim Dov Beilak and other Hate Hurts America Coalition coalition members cherish America's tradition of freedom of speech. HHA is practicing its own freedom of speech when it calls people of conscience to stand up against Michael Savage's hate-filled anti-minority tirades.
Stillwell's wrath against CAIR and other HHA members as a mere consequence of their advocacy against hate speech puts in question her credibility as a columnist.
Is Stillwell arguing that the incitement of violence against minorities is protected under free speech, or did she just never chance upon the numerous times Savage has advocated hateful acts against many other minority groups.
It cannot possibly be the latter because Savage's record is out there for all to see. In 2004, Savage stated "I think (Muslims) need to be forcibly converted to Christianity ... It's the only thing that can probably turn them into human beings." In 2006, he called for a ban on Muslim immigration and recommended making "the construction of mosques illegal in America." Also that year, he advocated "kill(ing) 100 million" Muslims.
Luckily, many Americans who become familiar with his divisive hatemongering have not fallen prey to Stillwell's expediency. A growing list of companies including AutoZone, Citrix, TrustedID, JC Penney, OfficeMax, Wal-Mart, andAT&T...
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
The terrorists, and their supporters continue to brand all speech as hate speech, if they disagree with it. And in doing so, the terrorists, and their supporters, continue their unrelenting attack on our constitution and our liberties.
Sounds like a plan.
“Death to America!” - Free Speech
“Death to Radical Fundamentalist Islamic Terrorists!” - Hate Speech
Our nation is doomed.
The author is a SanFransicko Muslim... tells it all.
Michael Savage (...) hate-speech against (...)Jews
Does the moron muslim author actually know that Michael Weiner (aka Savage) is a pro-Israel Jew?
Most of Michael Savage’s comments are taken out of text. I support Mr. Savage and have even donated to the lawsuit agaist CAIR. Please help fight Isamofacism and vist michaelsavage.com. To label any speech is a direct attempt to limit free speech. Lets not omit the fact the Mr. Savage is suing CAIR not the other way around. CAIR has slander Mr. Savage and continue to do so, now their gonna have to pay the price.
Hey, Safaa Ibrahim.
Get back to me when your co-religionists stop hijacking airplanes, flying them into buildings, blowing up supermarkets, pubs, busses, trains and schools, sawing-off innocent people’s heads, and calling for the extermination of the Jews in your textbooks.
Okay?
Until then, hearing you mewling about “hate” speech would be laughable, if your “religion” were not so unspeakably evil at its core and the single greatest threat to civilization for the entire 1400 years of its miserable existence.
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Is Stillwell arguing that the incitement of violence against minorities is protected under free speech, or did she just never chance upon the numerous times Savage has advocated hateful acts against many other minority groups.
I'm not a big Savage fan, and doubt that he's incited violence against minorities, but if he has, the answer to Safaa Ibrahim's question is that it's absolutely protected under free speech, as it should be. The solution lies in directly confronting the hateful comments.
Having read many of Mr. Ibrahim's co-religionists comments, he should be concerned about getting what he asks for, though he won't.
Thank God most folks don't really on school kids to interpret the Constitution for them.
Unlike "Safaa Ibrahim"
It is one step away from thoughtcrime, as speechcrime reveals thoughtcrime.
If we let this happen we will be authorizing a repressive state heading to de facto shari’a law
Hey Safaa - shove it in your hijab!
So what is "hate" speech if not speech?
This is why the whole concept of Hate Speech is flawed. When I say something, that's Free Speech. When you disagree with me, you're a Hater and you should just shut up.
It's ludicrous.
Hate speech is any speech the left and the mohammedans disagree with.
Amen, amen, and right on!!
These folks just want to shut up the people who they disagree w/.
This is a very important precendent and given the USSC ruling on CFR I wouldn't bet against the libs.
The Hate Hurts America Coalition?
Am I still allowed to say that I hate the Hate Hurts America Coalition?
Or is that “hate speech”?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
Sorry, buddy, there’s nothing in there about comments which piss you off or make you feel uncomfortable.
And about the establishment of religion... you had better not be planning to force me to be any religion I don’t want to be, either.
thought crimes ping.
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