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To: rellimpank

In the end, people believe whatever they want. Facts, reason, and logic make little difference. Faith will trump the truth every time.


6 posted on 01/14/2008 1:17:05 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81
Faith IS the key.

"The Critique of Pure reason" by Emmanuel Kant.

8 posted on 01/14/2008 1:27:25 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: rbg81; rellimpank; Sacajaweau
Faith is different from credulousness, gullibility. Ultimately it takes Faith (I'll spell that with a capital "F") to accept the inherently un-proveable position that all of this exists, that the phenomenal world is real (and not just maya, not an illusion) and that it has a comprehensible structure that corresponds to the cognitive structures of our minds, and that it actually matters.

Thus it makes sober sense to say, "I believe in order to understand." "I believe that without which nothing else is believable."

The question for the Muslims --- a serious question ---is whether they "believe" that faith must be reasonable -- must follow some interior set of laws which may transcend, but may not contradict, the truths apprehended by reason.

As we saw from Benedict 16's Regensberg address, it's a question which many Muslims find almost intolerably disturbing.

10 posted on 01/14/2008 1:44:21 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Do not accept a "truth" that comes without love, or a "love" that comes without truth. Edith Stein)
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