[Rummenigge]

only that it means nothing if you are discussing the theory of weather or not the market for innovative financial products (nice name - it speaks to you) derivatives is driving the costs of the underlying goods or whatever is underlying.

And my sinister plan was to start a discussion on that.

[Toddsterpatriot]

derivatives is driving the costs of the underlying goods or whatever is underlying.

You'll have to explain how that works. Last time I looked, the buyers and sellers of derivatives were in balance.