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SocGen: The trader vanishes (Caused global market meltdowns)
Financial Times ^ | 1/24/08 | John O’Doherty and Peggy Hollinger in Paris

Posted on 01/24/2008 11:14:36 PM PST by BurbankKarl

“I don’t know where he is,” said Daniel Bouton, the long-standing chief executive and chairman of Société Générale, when he was asked on Thursday about the whereabouts of Jérôme Kerviel, the trader at the centre of one of the biggest frauds in banking history.

But while Mr Kerviel’s movements remained unknown, the sequence of events that led to the extraordinary writedown at SocGen was becoming clearer.

The trader joined the bank in 2000 and worked in Paris. The first three years of his career were spent in the bank’s so-called “back office” and “middle office”, where trades are settled and risk is managed. SocGen said he had never worked directly in its risk control section, but remained in contact with people in those areas so he could be updated with the bank’s risk controls.

“The reasons he could succeed was because the trader knew intimately the bank’s risk controls and swiftly shifted positions to evade detection at each level of control,” Bouton said.

The fraud was discovered after the trader made an error with a fictitious counterparty. Its extent became clear over the weekend, when the bank‘s management interviewed Mr Kerviel.

Jean-Pierre Mustier, head of investment banking who was among those present at an interview with the trader over the weekend, said: “I am convinced he worked alone.”

SocGen said that Mr Kerviel was responsible for trading futures on European equity market indices, and had taken “massive fraudulent directional positions” in 2007 and 2008, many of which had made a profit in 2007. It was positions he had taken since the start of the year that caused the losses.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banking; france; globalism; jeromekerviel; kerviel; markets; societegenerale; socitgnrale; stockmarket
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1 posted on 01/24/2008 11:14:37 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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SocGen, the world’s leading equity derivative trading house – it claims to have invented the instruments – quickly unwound the positions he had amassed, estimated at €40bn-€50bn. SocGen’s fire sale contributed to the heavy stock market falls on Monday that provoked the US Federal Reserve’s dramatic interest rate cut the following day. The Fed was informed of the SocGen problem on Wednesday by the Banque de France.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bd9f55d6-ca4b-11dc-a960-000077b07658.html


2 posted on 01/24/2008 11:15:43 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

“I am convinced he worked alone.”

I’m not.


3 posted on 01/24/2008 11:26:19 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: BurbankKarl

Who has all that money now?


4 posted on 01/24/2008 11:28:08 PM PST by TexasCajun
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Whoever took the other side of the trades.

In the futures markets, there is a winner for every loser, exactly. It is a zero sum poker game.

5 posted on 01/24/2008 11:31:23 PM PST by JasonC
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To: TexasCajun

This dude made 100,000 Euros a year....hahaha

He must have had some other dough stashed though....top of the Interpol list no doubt...send Jason Bourne to get him.


6 posted on 01/24/2008 11:33:01 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
SocGen: The trader vanishes (Caused global market meltdowns)

That's patently NOT true, he didn't CAUSE the global market meltdown.

He traded way beyond his bounds and got in over his head and covered up his trades with ficticious activity.

When SG discovered what had happened, they had no option but to immediately unwind the positions, but it happened on Monday when the market WAS ALREADY TAKING A DIVE, hence the 7.1 billion dollar loss

He didn't cause the meltdown, the meltdown aggravated his losses, which in turn likely fueled further loss.

Had SG sat it out, they might have mitigated the loss, but I suspect they couldn't legally do that

7 posted on 01/24/2008 11:44:13 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H

NYSE was closed on Monday


8 posted on 01/24/2008 11:44:57 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Hmmm ... yawn .... more hmmm in am! ;-)


9 posted on 01/25/2008 12:32:15 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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” SocGen: The trader vanishes (Caused global market meltdowns) “

That’s right — Pay No Attention To That Man Behind The Curtain!

Forget the systemic weakness and find a scapegoat to blame it on — and, in the meantime, hand out some ‘candy’ to distract the children....

Smoke & Mirrors obscuring the cliff-edge...


10 posted on 01/25/2008 1:20:06 AM PST by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: BurbankKarl
Buried under Giant Stadium.

Keeping company with Jimmy Hoffa.:-)

11 posted on 01/25/2008 1:23:55 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: BurbankKarl

“Mr Kerviel ... had taken “massive fraudulent directional positions” in 2007 and 2008, many of which had made a profit in 2007. It was positions he had taken since the start of the year that caused the losses.”

He bet on a European “January Effect”, which failed to materialize. I almost did the same thing, but not with the leverage that he could command. Fortunately for my portfolio I decided to take a pass this year. Unfortunately for his bank, he didn’t.


12 posted on 01/25/2008 1:28:49 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Wil H

“Had SG sat it out, they might have mitigated the loss, but I suspect they couldn’t legally do that”

I don’t know about the legality of it, but it would have been imprudent. Once word leaked out (and it WOULD leak out) that they were sitting on this position, their counterparts in the market would move in for the kill, increasing the losses perhaps beyond their capacity to cover (think LTCM ). The possibility that the resulting collapse of the 2nd largest bank in France might spread and blow back on the initial winners might not occur to the participants until it was too late.

No, unwinding fast, before their problem was widely known, was the prudent thing to do.


13 posted on 01/25/2008 1:35:42 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: BurbankKarl

Just convert and hide out in a muslim ghetto, Jérôme. The cops won’t go there.


14 posted on 01/25/2008 4:02:11 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I wonder if he is connected to Soros.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 4:11:37 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: BurbankKarl
quickly unwound the positions he had amassed, estimated at €40bn-€50bn. SocGen’s fire sale contributed to the heavy stock market falls on Monday that provoked the US Federal Reserve’s dramatic interest rate cut the following day

I'm sure many are happy that these idiots unwound those positions like that. They most likely would have lost less money had they just unwound those postions over the course of a week or two.

16 posted on 01/25/2008 4:32:13 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

Perhaps he was a scapegoat for the bank’s actions. The loss was too much for the bank to accept responsibility for so they made a patsy agreement with the suspect and he went away.


17 posted on 01/25/2008 4:44:30 AM PST by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: BurbankKarl
NYSE was closed on Monday

So what?

The Bourse was open as was every other exchange in the world.

What makes you think that a French Bank does all it's trading on the NYSE?

18 posted on 01/25/2008 7:40:00 AM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H

they are the ones that piled up the future sell orders for Tuesday’s open.


19 posted on 01/25/2008 9:45:37 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Justa
Perhaps he was a scapegoat for the bank’s actions. The loss was too much for the bank to accept responsibility for so they made a patsy agreement with the suspect and he went away.

LOL! Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Why would SG dump $70 billion into a falling market if they didn't have to?
20 posted on 01/25/2008 12:36:08 PM PST by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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