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Deep-ocean vents are a source of oil and gas (evidence of abiogenic hydrocarbons)
Nature News ^ | 31 January 2008 | Rachel Courtland

Posted on 01/31/2008 9:42:53 PM PST by neverdem

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The Deep, Hot Biosphere The Deep, Hot Biosphere
by Thomas Gold
foreword by Freeman Dyson

1992 paper


21 posted on 02/01/2008 12:08:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy

Beam me to Planet Gore !

22 posted on 02/01/2008 3:42:33 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: neverdem

Petroleum is just Carbon and Hydrogen (with a few elements occasionally making up another 1%.)

Anytime you get Carbon and Hydrogen mixed together in sufficient quantity, cooked up under pressure and heat over a sufficent time, you will get pretroleum and natural gas.

There are probably different modes of this occuring.


23 posted on 02/01/2008 4:51:02 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: neverdem

bmflr


24 posted on 02/01/2008 9:17:46 AM PST by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter)
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Robots take scientists into sea depths
Seattle Post-Intelligencer | 7/29/05 | Tom Paulson
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25 posted on 02/01/2008 9:54:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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hydrothermal vents
hydrothermal vents

26 posted on 02/01/2008 10:01:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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one result of the search:

Study shows that hydrothermal vents release mercury
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/1999-10/NS-Ssth-061099.php


27 posted on 02/01/2008 10:01:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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The magical properties of Mercury, the metal the EU wants to ban
Daily Mail (U.K.) | 6-7-07 | Michael Hanlon
Posted on 06/25/2007 9:29:40 AM EDT by Renfield
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28 posted on 02/01/2008 10:05:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: kinoxi

and debeers tells us diamons are rare.


29 posted on 02/01/2008 10:31:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kinoxi

Thinking that the earth doesn’t make it’s own hydrocarbons is to put tape over your telescope. We see it made by non-living forces in our own solar system. But the earth is running out. Strange.
***I often thought there was too much crude oil to be accounted for by biological deterioration of dinosaurs. Once we understand the process and catalyze it, we can say bye bye to OPEC.


30 posted on 02/01/2008 2:53:52 PM PST by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: neverdem

Fascinating article!


31 posted on 02/01/2008 4:02:01 PM PST by Normandy
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To: neverdem
Who should be suprised that there is abiogenic hydrocarbon production. Several planets just in our solar system have significant amounts of methane, the main constituent of natural gas, in their atmospheres. Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Titan, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune all have some methane in their atmosphers

And now they've found methane on a planet in another solar system

33 posted on 06/15/2008 9:40:07 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Who should be suprised that there is abiogenic hydrocarbon production.

I think the folks calling it fossil fuels and believing in peak oil. Thanks for the link.

34 posted on 06/15/2008 9:59:49 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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Thanks neverdem.
 
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35 posted on 06/16/2008 8:34:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
BLACK-GOLD BLUES Discovery backs theory oil not 'fossil fuel'

36 posted on 09/18/2008 11:25:16 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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The Earth oozes hydrocarbons and water:
Earth could hold more water
by Philip Ball
8 March 2002
There is already thought to be several oceans' worth of water slightly higher in the mantle, at a depth of around 400-650 km. This region is called the transition zone, as it is between the upper and the lower mantle. The lower mantle's minerals can retain about a tenth as much water as the rocks above, Murakami's team finds. But because the volume of the lower mantle is much greater than that of the transition zone, it could hold a comparable amount of water... Any hydrogen in the rocks presumably comes from trapped water, an idea that other measurements support. The researchers found more hydrogen than previous experiments had led them to expect.
Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas
by Ben Harder
March 7, 2002
Based on what they witnessed in their lab, the researchers concluded that more water probably exists deep within the Earth than is present on Earth's surface -- as much as five times more... Murakami and his colleagues reached their conclusion based on how much water they managed to dissolve under the experiment's extreme conditions in several types of material that make up much of the lower mantle. They used heat and pressure -- 25.5 gigapascals of it, or more than 250,000 times natural atmospheric pressure at sea level -- to create four mineral compounds that exist in the lower mantle... Earth's oceans make up just 0.02 percent of the planet's total mass. T his means the vast lower mantle could contain many times more water than floats on the planet's surface.

37 posted on 06/13/2010 7:15:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: William Tell; sionnsar; neverdem
Telepathic Intruder said: “I don’t know if we’re burning it faster than it replenishes itself, though.”

Perhaps more importantly in the short term, abiotic creation of hydrocarbons may mean that there is much still to be found.

The key hint of this non-dinosuar/non-biologicl decay process to me has long been the depths at which ever more oil is found: Even the Grand Canyon is sterile at only 5000 feet depth. Diamond mines are sterile at that depths ... But we are to image that at 10,000 feet and 15,000 feet down (in different types of rock of course) at many locations around the world that biological residues are being compressed?

38 posted on 06/13/2010 7:37:42 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: philled

For Reference


39 posted on 04/04/2011 2:28:48 PM PDT by philled (Lay on, Macduff! And damned be him that first cries “Hold, enough!”)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
But we are to image that at 10,000 feet and 15,000 feet down (in different types of rock of course) at many locations around the world that biological residues are being compressed?

Yes, in sedimentary basins. Some examples include the Williston Basin, Anadarko Basin, the Michigan Basin, the Wind River Basin, and the Permian Basin, just here in the US.

In some places in the US, crystalline 'basement' rock is exposed at the surface (Igneous or metamorphic rock), in others, it is over 30,000 ft. down. The rocks aren't all in a nice, neat, layer cake down there.

40 posted on 07/01/2011 7:12:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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