[neverdem]

Abiogenic Hydrocarbon Production at Lost City Hydrothermal Field

Oh my God, the earth is causing global warming!

[neverdem]

The earth is causing climate change!

[Telepathic Intruder]

Ah-Hah! That’s what George Norie has been saying all along.

[garyhope]

If only this could be true so we can tell the Arabs and Muslims to drop dead.

[Army Air Corps]

ping to self.

[Telepathic Intruder]

You know, it’s completely likely that the fissile materials heating the earth’s core are producing some sort of energetic by-product, like how fast reactors produce plutonium. I don’t know if we’re burning it faster than it replenishes itself, though.

[kinoxi]

The evidence is evenly split from what I’ve read at this point. Thinking that the earth doesn’t make it’s own hydrocarbons is to put tape over your telescope. We see it made by non-living forces in our own solar system. But the earth is running out. Strange.

[redhead]

sounds like Gold's "Deep, Hot Biosphere" to me...

[old-ager]

Thomas Gold ping

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gold

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem. There may also be an even earlier topic than this one:

Lost City pumps life-essential chemicals at rates unseen at typical black smokers
University of Washington | January 31, 2008 | Unknown
Posted on 01/31/2008 4:28:30 PM EST by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962790/posts

[Arthur McGowan]

Since when is the biological origin of “most” oil and gas anything more than a theory?

[Born to Conserve]

Subduction carries carbonates into the earth where they are heated and broken down over millions of years. When the carbon wells up into the crust as carbides it comes in contact with water, and produces hydrocarbons. Calcium carbide produces acetylene, and I think I remember working with aluminum carbide which produced methane. I’m sure there are plenty of other carbides as well.

My grandfather taught me all this in the 60s when plate tectonics was being worked out.

[SunkenCiv]

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The Deep, Hot Biosphere by Thomas Gold foreword by Freeman Dyson 1992 paper

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[steelyourfaith]

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[JustDoItAlways]

Petroleum is just Carbon and Hydrogen (with a few elements occasionally making up another 1%.)

Anytime you get Carbon and Hydrogen mixed together in sufficient quantity, cooked up under pressure and heat over a sufficent time, you will get pretroleum and natural gas.

There are probably different modes of this occuring.

[Kevmo]

bmflr

[SunkenCiv]

Robots take scientists into sea depths
Seattle Post-Intelligencer | 7/29/05 | Tom Paulson
Posted on 08/02/2005 3:42:11 PM EDT by LibWhacker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1455539/posts

[SunkenCiv]

hydrothermal vents

[Normandy]

Fascinating article!

[El Gato]

Who should be suprised that there is abiogenic hydrocarbon production. Several planets just in our solar system have significant amounts of methane, the main constituent of natural gas, in their atmospheres. Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Titan, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune all have some methane in their atmosphers

And now they've found methane on a planet in another solar system

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem.

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