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The Saudis: Which Side Are They On?
HumanEvents.com ^ | 5 March 2008 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/05/2008 8:18:01 PM PST by K-oneTexas

 The Saudis: Which Side Are They On? by Robert Spencer

Saudi officials announced Monday that they had arrested 56 members of Al-Qaeda, who were at an “advanced stage” of planning jihad terror attacks within the Kingdom.

This would seem to support President Bush’s statement from last October, when in order to free up aid from the Saudis he declared: “I hereby certify that Saudi Arabia is cooperating with efforts to combat international terrorism and that the proposed assistance will help facilitate that effort.” As jarring as it may be to contemplate the notion that the United States is providing aid to the oil-rich House of Saud, these arrests indicate that at least it seems to be paying off.

Yet nagging questions remain. Last September, Stuart Levey, the Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, noted that the Saudis had not prosecuted even a single individual who has been identified by the U.S. or the U.N. as a bankroller of jihad terror. “If I could somehow snap my fingers and cut off the funding from one country,” Levey said, “it would be Saudi Arabia.”

What’s more, an undercover reconnaissance survey of mosques and Islamic schools all over the United States has found that as many as seventy-five percent of mosques and Islamic schools in this country preach jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism. Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy, according to a World Net Daily report, “confirmed that ‘the vast majority’ are inciting insurrection and jihad through sermons by Saudi-trained imams and anti-Western literature, videos and textbooks.”

The Saudis fund a significant number of the mosques in this country. Warith Deen Muhammad, a prominent American Muslim leader and the son of Nation of Islam founder Elijah Muhammad, explained what’s wrong with the Saudi influence in American mosques: “In Saudi Arabia it’s the Wahhabi school of thought...and they say, ‘We’re gonna give you our money, then we want you to...prefer our school of thought.” That’s in there whether they say it or not. So there is a problem receiving gifts that seem to have no attachment, no strings attached.”

But why would the Saudis be encouraging jihadist sensibilities among Muslims in the United States while arresting Al-Qaeda operatives inside the Kingdom? Abu Zubaydah, a captured Al-Qaeda operative, claimed that the House of Saud had made a deal with Al-Qaeda: financing for the jihad around the world, in exchange for immunity from jihadi attacks within Saudi Arabia itself.

The Saudis have denied this, and in any case the deal seems to be off. There have been several jihad attacks inside Saudi Arabia in recent years, but Stuart Levey is not out in left field in thinking that the Saudis continue to support terror in an enthusiastic -- and effective -- manner. Secret files revealed in Britain several weeks ago show Saudi officials threatening British investigators with another jihad attack on the scale of the July 7, 2005 bombings in London if they didn’t drop inquiries into corruption in their arms deals. Who is supposed to have made these threats? Prince Bandar, head of Saudi Arabia’s national security council and son of its crown prince.
 
In light of all this, it is likely that the 56 freshly-arrested members of Al-Qaeda are guilty in the eyes of the House of Saud not of waging jihad warfare as such, but simply of waging jihad warfare in the wrong place: inside the Kingdom. And given the Kingdom’s notoriously spotty human rights record, it is also likely that these suspects will not be offered the amenities of the Guantanamo camp about which Saudi authorities have issued complaints. And their arrests should not prevent American officials from asking tough questions about where the Saudis really stand, and what we can realistically expect from their alliance with the United States. When the Saudis refused to cut America a break on oil prices during President Bush’s trip to Riyadh in January, it should have been a wake-up call for anyone who still considered the Saudis a reliable ally in the war on terror. And this latest arrest of Al-Qaeda operatives shouldn’t lead anyone to go back to sleep, either.


Mr. Spencer is director of Jihad Watch and author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)" , "The Truth About Muhammad" and "Religion of Peace?" (all from Regnery -- a HUMAN EVENTS sister company).


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KEYWORDS: alqaeda; princebandar; saudi
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1 posted on 03/05/2008 8:18:02 PM PST by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

Whoever will pay the most money.


2 posted on 03/05/2008 8:20:02 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: K-oneTexas
The Saudis: Which Side Are They On?

The Saudis.

3 posted on 03/05/2008 8:25:57 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Back when we had the military capability we should have seized the damn Oil Fields


4 posted on 03/05/2008 8:28:37 PM PST by uncbob
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To: K-oneTexas

Theirs


5 posted on 03/05/2008 8:30:27 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: K-oneTexas

Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War.


6 posted on 03/05/2008 8:31:57 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: K-oneTexas

Not on ours.


7 posted on 03/05/2008 8:38:18 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: wastedyears

LOL. Exactly.


8 posted on 03/05/2008 8:54:13 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: K-oneTexas

Hooray Robert Spencer!
Hooray Robert Spencer!
Hooray Robert Spencer!

(thank you, sir.)


9 posted on 03/05/2008 8:56:57 PM PST by PGalt
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To: wastedyears
Actually, I don't think they are too keen on the unappeasable nutjobs who denounce them every day as western stooges and infidels, and having been trying to overthrow them for a generation.
10 posted on 03/05/2008 9:09:54 PM PST by JasonC
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To: uncbob
We have all the military capability anyone could ever need. Political will and unity, on the other hand...
11 posted on 03/05/2008 9:10:46 PM PST by JasonC
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To: K-oneTexas
The Saudis: Which Side Are They On?

Theirs!

Gee! That was a tough question
</sarcasm>

12 posted on 03/05/2008 9:11:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: K-oneTexas
They're on their own side, of course. The difficulty is that what that means differs almost as much with them as it does with Americans.

The Wahhabis aren't in charge...exactly. They allied with the House of Saud in the 20's and have, as one might imagine, deep and extensive contacts within the Royal family. But the Royal family has its own interests (first and foremost maintaining their power), and these do not always coincide with their theocratic partners.

There was a very quiet and very nasty little civil skirmish that centered around the 2003 al Qaeda bombing in, of all places, Riyadh itself. The tacit arrangement was that revolution was fine outside Saudi borders but not within; the gloves came off once it became apparent that al Qaeda had no intention of honoring that.

And so when we wonder about "the" Saudis and fail to consider the Byzantine factions and tides of influence we shouldn't be surprised that we end up a bit puzzled. It is, after all, the Middle East.

13 posted on 03/05/2008 9:11:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: K-oneTexas

“but simply of waging jihad warfare in the wrong place: inside the Kingdom.”

Bingo.


14 posted on 03/05/2008 9:20:46 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: K-oneTexas

“which side are they on?”

Theirs, of course.

As well they should be.

I just worry sometimes that we’re not always doing the same for ourselves. It’s useful to work with the Saudis, as we both need order and structure of some sort in the middle east to prosper, but we shouldn’t trust them further than we can verify.


15 posted on 03/05/2008 9:38:59 PM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: K-oneTexas

Easy. They are on their side.


16 posted on 03/05/2008 9:45:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: K-oneTexas

Saudi Arabia is indeed crawling with fanatics. Some very friendly & sweet people in the countryside, but Saudi Arabia does breed terrorists & the ruling family’s reaction is to encourage the (Sunni terrorists) to take their terrorism abroad. The Shi’a in the east are both oppressed minority & internal terrorist base. These al-Su’uds must support al-Wahhabiyya or face insurrection. The ones who would take over the country will be much worse, but the al-Su’uds are no good for anyone but themselves. They themselves don’t usually face the consequences of their actions because they can always fly away or enjoy themselves behind closed doors.

In spite of all this, the normal Saudis have a slow-paced, relatively innocent, & pretty isolated lifestyle. As a Moroccan in Saudi Arabia told me once, “They wouldn’t last one day in Morocco.”


17 posted on 03/06/2008 1:13:07 AM PST by forkinsocket
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Oh & I should add that many (Gulf) Arabs I’ve met who are against Islamists consider al-Su’uds to be their allies against Islamic extremism. You be the judge of that.


18 posted on 03/06/2008 1:27:33 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: K-oneTexas

Here’s a clue—it ain’t on ours.


19 posted on 03/06/2008 2:47:11 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: K-oneTexas

bttt


20 posted on 03/06/2008 2:54:57 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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